[Bug 549919] New: There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 Summary: There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.2 Version: Factory Platform: i586 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.2 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: roger@opq.se QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090909 SUSE/3.5.3-3.2 Firefox/3.5.3 After an install of RC1, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, even though there is a xorg.conf.install. Nonetheless, X starts. Except that the fonts are way too small. I think this is because the display physical dimensions (mm) are wrong. I was going to change the dimensions when I found there was no file to change. Shouldn't there be such a file? Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install RC1 2. 3. Actual Results: No /etc/X11/xorg.conf Expected Results: /etc/X11/xorg.conf sould exist. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c1 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-10-25 14:26:43 MDT --- We no longer write a xorg.conf file by default. Apparently your monitor did not provide the right DPI via DDC. Indeed in some rare cases you still need a xorg.conf, in that case to set the DPI value right. You can easily create one by running 'sax2 -r'. Still you need to edit the file manually. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c2 Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-10-26 01:46:22 MDT --- NOT resolved! In fact, sax makes a xorg.conf file. Sax is a SUSE thing, so "We no longer write a xorg.conf file by default" is rather inaccurate. I would find it very hard to say that what sax does by default is not the same as what openSUSE does by default. Just run sax, make no changes, and save settings, and (1) you get an xorg.conf file, and (2) your display looks different. In my case, it was the fonts. Remember that, when testing the new (not really new in my case - as no changes were made) sax does not show the fonts that will be used as a result of the current settings. Only the resolution and position of things the whole graphics area. Also, when running sax, the physical size of my display was correctly detected. However, after the RC1 install, when there was no xorg,conf file, xdpyinfo reported that a totally incorrect physical display size was being used. So the display size that is detected by sax is not detected or not used during the install. Without an xorg.conf file, how is the display size determined? As I get mixed results (sax gets it right, but X without an xorg.conf file does not), I am guessing that something is not quite right here. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c3 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |roger@opq.se --- Comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-10-26 02:31:41 MDT --- Please attach /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log after using SaX2 and /var/log/Xorg.0.log after removing xorg.conf. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c4 --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-10-26 21:15:51 MDT --- Also attach the output of xdpyinfo for both cases. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c6 --- Comment #6 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-10-31 15:15:45 MDT --- Roger, any news on this one? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c7 --- Comment #7 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-01 06:17:27 MST --- I think my real confusion was that there was no xorg.conf file. When I found that this was expected behavior, I think this bug is not a bug. The only thing I can add is that I have now installed the proprietary nvidia drivers. Still without an xorg.conf file. With the nvidia drivers, the display size is sensed. With the x.org drivers, it is not sensed, and is set incorrectly. In both cases the resolution is correct. I mean the physical size. When the display size is incorrect, the fonts are very small - but still relatively in proportion in and within applications (kde desktop). When the display size is correct, the font proportions look crappy. For example, in firefox, the menu fonts are rather large, while the content fonts are always extremely small. In the KDE desktop, the fonts under icons look too big. In YaST, in the Package Groups list, the font is unusually big compared to the fonts used elsewhere in Yast. I realize this appears to veer of the bug topic. But it was this odd font behavior that made me look at xorg.conf in the first place. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c8 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|roger@opq.se | Resolution| |NORESPONSE --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-11-01 06:49:27 MST --- Instead of providing the information we would have needed to investigate that issue (I already had an idea, that I wanted to see confirmed) you switched to the proprietary driver, for which we can't provide any help. That's unfortunate. In case you're still interested in helping to investigate the initial issue, please switch back to nv driver again and provide the config and logfiles as suggested before in comment #3. Thanks. Closing as RESOLVED NORESPONSE. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c9 --- Comment #9 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-01 10:36:58 MST --- Stefan I am not sitting by the machine I am testing 11.2 on. So, it can take a few days for me to get information. My response in comment #7 was not to imply that I do not want to contribute the needed information. My earlier response today remains accurate. I have removed the proprietary driver, and am attaching the the requested information. I think the file names tell whivh is which. This is now a RC2 machine. But this behavior seems to be the same. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c10 --- Comment #10 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-01 10:38:23 MST --- Created an attachment (id=325034) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=325034) xorg.conf, X log files -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c11 --- Comment #11 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-11-01 13:00:46 MST --- xdpyinfo.nvidia.proprietary dimensions: 1920x1200 pixels (372x231 millimeters) resolution: 131x132 dots per inch xdpyinfo.nv.without.xorg.conf dimensions: 1920x1200 pixels (508x318 millimeters) resolution: 96x96 dots per inch xdpyinfo.nv.with.xorg.conf dimensions: 1920x1200 pixels (369x231 millimeters) resolution: 132x132 dots per inch As suspected DDC doesn't work. Thus a DPI value of (96,96) is assumed without any xorg.conf in place. Otherwise the DPI value of xorg.conf (132,132) is used. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c12 --- Comment #12 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-11-01 13:04:10 MST --- Why sax2, i.e. hwinfo can detect the right display dimensions (DPI value) via DDC I can't say. The output of 'hwinfo --monitor' and /var/log/SaX.log would be interesting in this context. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c13 --- Comment #13 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-02 11:29:44 MST --- Created an attachment (id=325173) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=325173) hwinfo, sax2.log -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c14 --- Comment #14 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-02 11:30:26 MST --- I have attached the files. This is without an xorg.conf file. That is, until I run sax2. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c15 --- Comment #15 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-11-02 12:49:57 MST --- As suspected hwinfo, which is also used by sax2, can detect the monitor via DDC: 30: None 00.2: 10002 LCD Monitor [Created at monitor.95] Unique ID: aHB6.oLK021iMFJ4 Hardware Class: monitor Model: "CF176 LCD Monitor" Vendor: SEC "CF176" Device: eisa 0x5557 Resolution: 1920x1200@60Hz -> Size: 367x230 mm Detailed Timings #0: Resolution: 1920x1200 Horizontal: 1920 1968 2000 2208 (+48 +80 +288) -hsync Vertical: 1200 1202 1208 1220 (+2 +8 +20) -vsync Frequencies: 161.63 MHz, 73.20 kHz, 60.00 Hz Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User roger@opq.se added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c16 --- Comment #16 from Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> 2009-11-02 13:08:33 MST --- So it seems that the X.org nv driver must be the culprit. It is when that is used that the display size is wrong. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549919#c17 --- Comment #17 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-11-02 13:15:26 MST --- Yes, that's correct. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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