https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c1 --- Comment #1 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-09-23 06:09:50 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=241123) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=241123) y2log from the failed upgrade attempt -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User visnov@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c2 Stanislav Visnovsky changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |locilka@novell.com, visnov@novell.com, | |aschnell@novell.com AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Stanislav Visnovsky 2008-09-26 07:38:03 MDT --- 2008-09-22 05:20:40 <2> heron(3659) [YCP] RootPart.ycp:1420 Device does not match fstab: '/dev/sdb2' vs. '/dev/sda2' 2008-09-22 05:20:40 <1> heron(3659) [YCP] SuSERelease.ycp:47 File with release information: /etc/SuSE-release 2008-09-22 05:20:40 <1> heron(3659) [YCP] RootPart.ycp:1456 Partition is valid: false, arch is valid: false 2008-09-22 05:20:40 <1> heron(3659) [YCP] RootPart.ycp:1464 $["boot":true, "detected_fs":`ext3, "device":"/dev/sdb2", "fsid":131, "fstype":"Linux native", "name":"sdb2", "nr":2, "region":[523, 3264], "size_k":26218080, "type":`primary, "udev_id":["scsi-SATA_WDC_WD1600JB-00_WD-WCAL98309057-part2", "ata-WDC_WD1600JB-00GVC0_WD-WCAL98309057-part2"], "udev_path":"pci-0000:00:07.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2", "used_fs":`ext3, "uuid":"830863c8-8698-40a1-9dbf-32e23e623a6f"] $[`arch:"x86_64", `arch_valid:false, `fs:`ext3, `fstype:"Linux native", `label:"", `name:"openSUSE Alpha2plus", `valid:false] Seems the disks are presented in different order. Steffen? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c4 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|snwint@novell.com |yast2-maintainers@suse.de Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|kkaempf@novell.com | --- Comment #4 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-09-26 08:45:47 MDT --- Disk order is undefined since years. Using sdX as device name is bad. See bug 429019. In any case there's 'hwinfo --map' that AFAIU has been used in the past to track device name changes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c6 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-09-29 04:51:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #4 from Steffen Winterfeldt)

Disk order is undefined since years. Using sdX as device name is bad. See bug 429019.

Thats how it is when you always do a dist-upgrade for years.

In any case there's 'hwinfo --map' that AFAIU has been used in the past to track device name changes.

Shouldn't "hwinfo --map" output by-id devices instead of mapping from one undefined to another undefined ?? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 Ladislav Slezak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kmachalkova@novell.com AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |aschnell@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c9 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #9 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-07 02:48:44 MDT --- It seems as if by-id is only used on fresh installs. Does distribution upgrade rewrite fstab (and boot/grub/menu.lst) from old-format (hdX/sdX) to by-id ? If yes, why wasn't this code run during the Beta1 upgrade ? If no, how are we going to support such systems ? Forcing a new install ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c11 Kay Sievers changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kasievers@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Kay Sievers 2008-10-07 03:02:00 MDT --- (In reply to comment #9 from Klaus Kämpf)

It seems as if by-id is only used on fresh installs. Does distribution upgrade rewrite fstab (and boot/grub/menu.lst) from old-format (hdX/sdX) to by-id ?

If yes, why wasn't this code run during the Beta1 upgrade ? If no, how are we going to support such systems ? Forcing a new install ?

Same old story, we need to collect the mapping from the running system, and use that information for the update, or require a manual device re-mapping by the user. There is no way to keep any kernel device name in any configuration file, like sdX in fstab, on the updated system. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c13 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cthiel@novell.com, behlert@novell.com, | |kukuk@novell.com --- Comment #13 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-07 03:13:21 MDT --- So we either prepare a 'remapping tool' to be run in openSUSE 11.0 (resp. SLE10, or in the openSUSE 11.1/SLE11 instsys) and announce it in the release notes or we officially say 'sorry, please do a fresh install'. Adding release managers to CC -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User kukuk@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c15 --- Comment #15 from Thorsten Kukuk 2008-10-07 03:30:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #12 from Arvin Schnell)

I'm not aware of feature requests to change fstab during update to use device ids.

We clearly will not do that, since some people choose device names for purpose. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130 User locilka@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429130#c18 --- Comment #18 from Lukas Ocilka 2008-10-07 04:25:02 MDT --- Anyway, the main idea is to provide a useful feedback to the user when upgrade is not possible because of the 'current state'. Suggested solution (LABELs, UUIDs, ...) is an implementation detail. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.