[Bug 964149] New: invalid DECLARED bug
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964149 Bug ID: 964149 Summary: invalid DECLARED bug Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: 2015* Hardware: x86-64 OS: openSUSE 42.1 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem Assignee: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Reporter: misi@ship.hu QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- Egbert Eich 2016-01-28 19:47:15 UTC WROTE: "You are still using the NVIDIA binary driver although you are using Tumbleweed. I guess, you should have deinstalled it before you switched from 13.2 to TW. Point is, there is no NVIDIA driver for TW. Using a driver for Leap or 13.2 will most likely lead to issues and this is what you might be seeing here. Your best option would be to deinstall the NVIDIA driver. There are some hints on: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#Easy_way_to_get_NVIDIA_drivers how to do this. Since the configuration you are using is not supported, closing as INVALID." Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I updated from 13.2 to Tumbleweed. The program let me to do it: zypper dup worked via repository change. Nobody warns me: do this, do that... and what is supported. After this I did ONLY such things as the official updates AND install recommended nvidia driver. If the legacy xdm would not exist and work the whole system would be a catastrophe. It is an (almost fully) WORKING SYSTEM. Was, before upgrade. I MUST use hardware accelerated nvidia driver and it is a valid option for OpenSuSE, moöreover it is a vendor-launched proprietary driver. You should test the vnc/ssvnc ---> Xvnc/x11vnc ---> xdm-kdm(or,switched)ssdm ---> other desktop applications ---> graphical programs combination-chain. The workflow should be transparent in ideal case. YOU let me to do this and declared it invalid? It is an incorrect behavior. You deteriorate my system... then fix it. What can I do? Throw out the whole system, hardware and software? You should TEST thoroughly a distribution BEFORE launch instead develop a system AFTER official launch. It is tragic. If I can not think before what the circumstances would result, the the configuration will be simply not supported... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Misi Mókus
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Bernhard Wiedemann
You should TEST thoroughly a distribution BEFORE launch
Tumbleweed is a rolling-release distribution, so there is never a launch or always - however you define "launch". And I wrote an automated test system (called openQA) to keep it in good condition at all times by running hundreds of automated tests every day but it is hard to test special hardware+drivers with it. but OTOH I can tell you, that I got binary nvidia drivers to work on Tumbleweed using the latest kernel from Leap and the G04 nvidia driver self-compiled into an rpm using osc co X11:Drivers:Video/nvidia-gfxG04 and osc build openSUSE_Factory x11-video-nvidiaG04.spec cp -a .../*.rpm . and same for nvidia-gfxG04.spec and I did zypper addlock kernel-default so that newer kernels only get installed when I want it. feel free to update the wiki page accordingly -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Martin Pluskal
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A husband and his wife walk in the forest with their 13(.2) children. On a clear place check their count, one of them is missing. The husband says: - My beloved wife, what could we do? Look for the missing or make another one? Imagine that guest checks into a hotel, and after a while starts asking hotel
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Richard Brown
1. You should NOT assemble such OS distribution at all as can not support ALL hardware with its ALL features: it is one of the main aim of the OS.
Agreed - so are you offering to donate to the openSUSE Project ALL hardware? If so, I can provide delivery addresses for some of our infrastructure locations if you need help with hosting but the chances are we will need larger premises - are you going to donate a data centre or two for the openSUSE Project? Are you and an army of volunteers going to work on ensuring we have support for ALL features?
2. But you decide to do that you should testing all offered compontents' working. For example x11vnc, Xvnc collisions (resulted full lockdown).
Agreed - are you and an army of testers going to either manually test that or write the tests so openQA can? The openQA test writers guide is here: https://github.com/os-autoinst/openQA/blob/master/docs/WritingTests.asciidoc
3. You should do not offer such upgrading combinations which results INVALID system.
We do not offer the NVIDIA driver, it is provided by NVIDIA Plus, as it's a closed source, proprietary driver, not only do we not provide it, but we cannot do anything to fix it besides offer sympathy I had sympathy for you, but since reading this bugzilla thread, I'm afraid you've lost it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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