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4 Apr 2008 4 Apr '08

23:13

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 Summary: Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to "Repair System" and has no detectable function Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: PC OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Usability AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Customer Booting from DVD/CD 1. The Option to 'Rescue System' is presented, however ends in an text error response of 'Rescue login:' I do not know what was intended between the Boot Options 'Repair' AND 'Rescue' However both options end with a "Rescue Login" as a console prompt. I suggest that you hide it and assign it to a function Key if the 'Rescue Login' and 'Repair Login' does have some different purpose a user can not select to use but a tecko can when directed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14 Apr 14 Apr

14:52

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 Cyril Hrubis changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |mschmidkunz@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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17 Apr 17 Apr

12:30

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User mschmidkunz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c1 Martin Schmidkunz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |locilka@novell.com Severity|Major |Enhancement --- Comment #1 from Martin Schmidkunz 2008-04-17 06:30:13 MST --- "Repair Installed System" is an installation option during the installation as well. Therefore I suggest to remove "repair installed system" from the installation workflow and to move this functionality to the boot menu. Does that make sense for you? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12:36

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User locilka@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c2 Lukas Ocilka changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|locilka@novell.com |mschmidkunz@novell.com AssignedTo|mschmidkunz@novell.com |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Lukas Ocilka 2008-04-17 06:36:18 MST --- text error response of 'Rescue login:' expects user to write `root` and press `ENTER` 1.) Rescue is just a smallish system. 2.) Repair is a YaST module. They're not the same. I never use YaST Repair but our users do. And, of course, openSUSE 11.0 differs a lot to 10.3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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13:55

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c3 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |snwint@novell.com AssignedTo|coolo@novell.com |siegfried.olschner@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Stephan Kulow 2008-04-17 07:55:18 MST --- I'm not usability enough to justify. My suggestion would be to name them similiarly, but make it clear Repair your Installation Boot into Export Rescue System -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14:07

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c4 --- Comment #4 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-04-17 08:07:30 MST --- IIRC there was some discussion about changing the term 'rescue system' in the past. After all, it makes it not clear what it really is: a small linux system. How about something like 'system console' or so? I believe MS uses a similar term, but I'm not sure. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:07

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User siegfried.olschner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c5 --- Comment #5 from Siegfried Olschner 2008-04-17 10:07:16 MST --- Used a openSUSE 10.3 DVD with activation code. ATM the DVD boot menu shows: Boot from Hard Disk --> will start the bootloader Installation --> will start the YaST installation Repair Installed System ??? did not work with 2 different test PCs but should open YaST Repair Module Rescue System --> prompt = "Rescue login:" without any additional information Firmware Test ??? did not work with 2 different test PCs Memory Test --> will start mem-test My suggestions: Boot from Hard Disk +-- isn't the name of the module Installation | "YaST System Repair"? YaST System Repair <--+ Boot Minimal System <--+ Firmware Test | Memory Test +-- Perhaps we can add some explanatory text above the first login prompt? Comments? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:24

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c6 --- Comment #6 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-04-17 10:24:45 MST --- - YaST System Repair * Do people know what yast is? - Boot Minimal System * Not too similar to 'install minimal system'? - Perhaps we can add some explanatory text above the first login prompt? * No problem at all, write some? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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16:34

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c7 --- Comment #7 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-04-17 10:34:38 MST --- Maybe just 'YaST System Repair' -> 'System Repair'? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18 Apr 18 Apr

05:41

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User siegfried.olschner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c8 Siegfried Olschner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |michl@novell.com --- Comment #8 from Siegfried Olschner 2008-04-17 23:41:02 MST --- Yes, we should avoid the term YaST. Perhaps "System Repair Tool"? I think we can skip the "Start" of "Start System Repair Tool" A different idea for the other item was: "Boot Minimal System from Media" "Boot Minimal System form CD/DVD" but this is a log text and can we use "CD/DVD" in every case? Michl: Do you have any ideas, should we avoid the term YaST in the boot menu descriptions? Boot from Hard Disk Installation System Repair Tool Boot Minimal System from CD/DVD Firmware Test Memory Test -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Apr 25 Apr

08:30

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User mschmidkunz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c9 --- Comment #9 from Martin Schmidkunz 2008-04-25 02:30:48 MST --- *** Bug 377445 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377445 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:10

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User siegfried.olschner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c10 --- Comment #10 from Siegfried Olschner 2008-04-25 04:10:10 MST --- Created an attachment (id=210455) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=210455) Suggestion for wording Here is a mockup with the changes. Comments? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:19

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User siegfried.olschner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c11 Siegfried Olschner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mge@novell.com AssignedTo|siegfried.olschner@novell.com |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Siegfried Olschner 2008-04-25 04:19:40 MST --- Current status in plain text, see mockup in #10: Boot from Hard Disk Start Installation Boot Minimal System from Media Start System Repair Tool Firmware Test Memory Test MGE: this renaming will be visible in SLE-Products. Do you have comments? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:42

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User mge@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c12 --- Comment #12 from Matthias Eckermann 2008-04-25 04:42:24 MST --- I strongly object this change. "Rescue system" is an established naming in the linux world. The only thing missing here is an informal line how to proceed and where the respective information can be found in the manual. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12:25

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User siegfried.olschner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c13 Siegfried Olschner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |siegfried.olschner@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #13 from Siegfried Olschner 2008-04-25 06:25:21 MST --- OK, but I think many users will not see a difference between Repair Installed System and Rescue System Steffen, is it possible to add comments to the items below the item list, e.g. as shown in the installation process during the selection of the desktop? I don't know if there was already a discussion about such an extension. Installation via DVD +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | openSUSE | | | | | | | | Boot from Hard Disk | | Installation | | [.Repair Installed System.......] | | Rescue System | | Check Installation Media | | Firmware Test | | Memory Test | | | | | | Boot via media and start of the System Repair Tool that | | will provide automatic and manual interaction mode. | | | | Boot Options ......................................... | | | | | | | |F1 Help F2 Language F3 Video Mode F4 Source F5 Kernel F6 Driver | | Englisch (US) 800 x 600 DVD Default No | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | openSUSE | | | | | | | | Boot from Hard Disk | | Installation | | Repair Installed System | | [.Rescue System.................] | | Check Installation Media | | Firmware Test | | Memory Test | | | | | | Boot via media and start of a minimal expert system | | that provides only text mode. | | | | Boot Options ......................................... | | | | | | | |F1 Help F2 Language F3 Video Mode F4 Source F5 Kernel F6 Driver | | Englisch (US) 800 x 600 DVD Default No | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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12:45

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c14 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|snwint@novell.com | --- Comment #14 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-04-25 06:45:04 MST --- Technically no big thing. But who writes the texts? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10 Dec 10 Dec

14:41

New subject: [Bug 377446] Boot Option "Rescue System" is both confronting next to " Repair System" and has no detectable function

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377446#c15 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #15 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-12-10 07:41:50 MST --- looks like there is no real interest in changing this; closing bug -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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