https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c1 --- Comment #1 from Ludwig Nussel 2013-01-09 10:30:52 CET --- Some clarification after talking to Gabi. Of course this is also just a hack but I see no good solution either. Some kind of "soft conflict" would be nice or a way to ignore only certain dependencies like it's possible in obs. We don't have that though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c3 Gabriele Mohr changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |gs@suse.com, | |lslezak@suse.com InfoProvider| |lnussel@suse.com --- Comment #3 from Gabriele Mohr 2013-01-09 11:04:40 UTC --- I wouldn't change the current behaviour and set the solver flag 'onlyRequires' to 'true' generally for the minimal server selection. There might be also users who don't want it this way and I think the "recommends" of packages usually make sense. And as Ludwig wrote, the minimal selection has to require packages then. Users who want to reduce the number of packages installed can customize the selection by entering 'Software' in 'Installation Settings' overview. For Qt: click 'Details' and select 'View' 'Installation Summary'. Tab 'Package' has an entry to change status for all packages in the list (to 'Do not install') and with it only the required packages remain automatically selected. For ncurses: Select 'Package Classification' from 'Filter' menu and 'Recommended' packages. There is also the possibility to change status of all packages in the list ('Actions', 'All listed packages', 'Keep All'). Remark to the patch: AFAICS the value for desktop is "textmode" and the solver flag has to be set always according to the selected desktop (in case of reentering the desktop selection). Ludwig, do you agree to let yast2-packager unchanged? I think the possibility to customize the package selection is a good solution for now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c5 Ludwig Nussel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|lnussel@suse.com | --- Comment #5 from Ludwig Nussel 2013-01-11 10:50:13 CET --- What's the point of having patterns if you argue that you could always tune the installation manually? That misses the point, sorry. Making sure the correct boot loader package is installed is the duty of yast2-bootloader. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c7 --- Comment #7 from Ludwig Nussel 2013-03-25 14:38:17 CET --- now that 12.3 is done and we have plenty time to test this change on the road to 13.1 could you please apply the patch now? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c Alberto Planas Dominguez changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| | GOLD -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=797304#c9 Roman Neuhauser changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rneuhauser@suse.com --- Comment #9 from Roman Neuhauser 2014-08-06 09:46:13 UTC --- for me as a user, the current situation with the minimal_conflicts pattern is really off-putting. i absolutely don't expect a "minimal" installation hampering future attempts to install further software. other GNU/Linux distro and other operating system i've used install whatever they consider "minimal" and then let me install more stuff. "minimal" says "you can't live without this, and you don't need anything else" in English while in Susish, "you can't live without this" is apparently spelled "recommended". it's absurd. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.