[Bug 374182] New: Cannot boot on AMD k6 450 MHz
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 Summary: Cannot boot on AMD k6 450 MHz Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Alpha 3 Platform: 32bit OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Beta-Customer I got an really old 1999 Laptop for playing with it. I cannot boot any of the newer boot CDs (10.3, 11.0) I get the boot screen with the menu. Pressing any ley results in a reboot. HW seen from inside Win98: IPC Laptop Phoenix BIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 Date:11/01/99 CPU AMD K6-2/450 64MB RAM 640k // 63M Extended ATI RAGE MOBILITY AGP ALi M5229 PCI IDE Controller ALi 7101 Power Management ALi M1533 PCI/ISA Bridge ALi M1541 AGP System Controller ALi PCI/USB Open Host Controller Creative SB AudioPCI 64V TI PCI 1225 CardBus Controller APM CD ROM HD 4GB or 30 GB with Win98 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c1 --- Comment #1 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-03-27 16:07:16 MST --- To be sure, I tested knoppix 3.9 (kernel 2.6.11) All o.k. within knoppix. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c2 roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |roland.kletzing@materna.de --- Comment #2 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-03-28 16:04:20 MST --- could you please try latest grml live cd - see http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-1.1/ it has a more recent kernel than 2.6.11. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c3 --- Comment #3 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-03-31 14:20:43 MST --- grml 1.1 is running fine even with 64 MB, X11, sound... So it is not the 2.6.23.16 kernel The problem is on SUSE CD, that the system crashes in the first selection menu, where I can select: boot from harddisk Install Install - ACPI disabled .. If I press any key or wait some 5 seconds, the system reboots. May be that the 5 seconds are allways the reason, not any keypress. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c4 --- Comment #4 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-03-31 14:56:13 MST ---
I get the boot screen with the menu. Pressing any ley results in a reboot.
while reading this again, i`d wonder if this is a kernel problem at all. so - you select "Install" and then you get the reboot,before you see that the kernel is loaded at all? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c5 --- Comment #5 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-03-31 16:07:38 MST --- maybe you could try booting with <shift> or <alt> pressed ? not sure, but iirc, i read somewhere that makes bootloader boot into different mode - unfortunately, cannot test here -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c6 --- Comment #6 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-01 13:12:34 MST --- It is <shift> to enter text mode. This works, but if I start linux with any or all of the options: failsave noapic nolapic all I get: loading: linux.. Exact 2 dots, 5 seconds and a reboot. Are there more switches? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c7 --- Comment #7 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-01 13:49:34 MST --- I even cannot start memtest. Again: loading memtest.. and reboot! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c8 --- Comment #8 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-04-01 14:36:34 MST --- what about 10.2 and before - i.e. can you systematically test which was the last suse which successfully booted ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c9 --- Comment #9 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-02 02:26:59 MST --- I'll try starting with SuSE 8.1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c10 --- Comment #10 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-03 12:41:18 MST --- I just tested 8.1 O.K 9.1 O.K 9.2 O.K 10.0 O.K 10.1 infinite reboot 10.2 infinite reboot 10.3 infinite reboot 11.0A3 infinite reboot This were all the original CD's, but not the 11.0 one. I can install any of those SUSE version, that booted (yes I tested, to get yast2 up) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c11 --- Comment #11 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-21 15:36:15 MST --- openSUSE 11.0b1 booted on this machine, but stopped during expanding of initrd. So I cannot test anything on this machine -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c12 --- Comment #12 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-23 11:53:07 MST --- I tested both, boot.iso and the live system. Using boot.iso I switched to tetx only mode and failsave. Both hang when uncomressing of initrd is starting. I see three dots "..." and than the system hangs. Where is the list of minimum HW to use this system???? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c13 --- Comment #13 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-04-23 15:31:27 MST --- here is a list: http://en.opensuse.org/Sysreqs i´m wondering - the requirements a really high. so, this is more than what XP needs - so how can linux be a ressource saver ? think these values are for typical desktop use, not for minimal install. i`d be happy if there would be some "absolutely minimum requirements" for kernel and base system w/o gui. maybe novell won`t tell about, since there is JEOS now, which is more minimalistic approach - see http://www.novell.com/linux2/appliance/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c14 --- Comment #14 from Joachim Reichelt <Joachim.Reichelt@helmholtz-hzi.de> 2008-04-24 00:52:41 MST --- O.K. This system has only 64M and not: Main memory: At least 256 MB; 512 MB recommended So the system cannot unpack initrd. And knoppix got no problems, so there may be thinks to optimize?! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User roland.kletzing@materna.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c15 --- Comment #15 from roland kletzing <roland.kletzing@materna.de> 2008-04-24 01:50:55 MST --- i hope there is room for optimization. i can boot with 96mb inside vmware - before installer starts i`m asked for adding swapspace. i`m curious why 64mb is not enough for the same..... i`d like to update my neoware thin-client soon to a recent opensuse base-system (it has a small hdd inside) - and i think i will run into the same issues then. that device has 64mb, too -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 Karsten Keil <kkeil@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkeil@novell.com AssignedTo|kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Component|Basesystem |Installation QAContact|qa@suse.de |jsrain@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |chrubis@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |aj@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|aj@novell.com |michl@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182 User aj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374182#c16 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #16 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2008-07-02 04:05:50 MDT --- You have to differentiate : * Installation on a running system: This needs more than 64 MB - or a swap partition setup before and will take then quite some time due to heavy swap usage * Running a graphical system like KDE or GNOME - openSUSE 11.0 is not setup for this * Building with kiwi an installation image on another system using JeOS and deploying it on a low-memory system -> this should work for thin clients! But there might be another problem with the K6: We compile for i586, I hope the K6 is fully compatible... Btw. there's not only SLE JeOS but also the openSUSE version called LimeJeOS... Sorry, I have to close this as wontfix for openSUSE. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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