[Bug 469190] New: vmware complains that it can not access host /dev/rtc
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 Summary: vmware complains that it can not access host /dev/rtc Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Other AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: robin.listas@telefonica.net QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121300 SUSE/3.0.5-0.1 Firefox/3.0.5 I have VMware-server-1.0.8-126538. Host: openSUSE 11.0 Guest: 11.1 Now and then, vmware pops up this message: +++ The host high-resolution timer device (/dev/rtc) cannot be opened (Device or resource busy). It appears that some other application is using the device. Without this device, the guest operating system can fail to keep time correctly. To avoid this problem, stop the conflicting application. If that is not possible, see http://www.vmware.com/info?id=34. [ ] never show this dialog again ++- I don't know whether it really needs to access /dev/rtc or not. Neither 'lsof /dev/rtc' nor 'fuser /dev/rtc' finds anything using '/dev/rtc', but the ntp daemon is running. The article mentioned recommends increasing HZ to 1000 in the kernel, which I understand could be excessive. The alternative they recommend is configure vmware "host.useFastclock = FALSE", which I will try. I write this in case you have something else to say or recommend in this respect, not because I consider this is a bug. Maybe we need a special kernel tailored for virtualized environments, as was mentioned recently in the factory mail list. Reproducible: Sometimes -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |kernel-maintainers@forge.pr |ovo.novell.com |ovo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User gregkh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c1 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #1 from Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> 2009-03-17 10:55:01 MST --- Try asking vmware about this kind of issue, nothing we can do about it, sorry. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User robin.listas@telefonica.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c2 --- Comment #2 from Carlos Robinson <robin.listas@telefonica.net> 2009-03-17 15:20:40 MST --- Vmware has this issue documented. Obviously, if vmware can not access the /dev/rtc device, it is Linux who doesn't allow it, so it is Linux "fault", not vmware. Ie, it is you who has to talk with vmware (and viceversa), not me. You both should collaborate more. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User gregkh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c3 --- Comment #3 from Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> 2009-03-17 15:45:33 MST --- vmware violates the copyright of both my personal code, and Novell's corporate code by shipping closed source Linux kernel modules. It is they who need to talk to us about issues like this, it's not like we are hard to get ahold of :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User robin.listas@telefonica.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c4 --- Comment #4 from Carlos Robinson <robin.listas@telefonica.net> 2009-03-17 18:05:00 MST --- Whatever. What I, Joe user, is not going to do is to fight you both or act as intermediary because both sides can not negotiate. I don't care how you Novell, or them, Vmware, do it, but, please, solve your problems and leave us users out of it. If you feel they violate your copyright, sue them, don't tell me. I just want the system to work; how, I don't care. This bug is about the kernel not giving access to a device, not about legal issues. It is entirely a Linux problem. Yo don't want to even look at it, just because the application is from Vmware? Fine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User gregkh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c5 --- Comment #5 from Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> 2009-03-17 19:51:49 MST --- vmware is a completely closed source application that we have no idea how it works or looks like. When you run it on your Linux machine, you taint your kernel and it becomes unsupportable (the host side.) Because of that, there is nothing that we can do at all about this. Please contact vmware, they are the ones that can work to resolve this, not us. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190 User robin.listas@telefonica.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469190#c6 --- Comment #6 from Carlos Robinson <robin.listas@telefonica.net> 2009-03-18 08:23:08 MST --- Created an attachment (id=280310) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=280310) Your own voucher * My task is only to report bugzillas. * Vmware has this particular issue studied and documented. They list the workaround (and it works). They say the problem is yours. * The issue is solved on my side. * Therefore, I report the problem to you, so that you are aware and can solve your side. * I will not contact them, because they have done their part. It is you who will not even look at it for political reasons. * If you have problems with them, solve them, do not tell me to go away. I can't solve your problems. Not my job. * We have a business saying here: "The client is always right". * Time ago, when I bought a SuSE, it included a printed card voucher (see attached file) to try out vmware for free - and it has the SuSE logo on it. You were friends. I see you do not maintain your good intentions/promises. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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