[Bug 405683] New: legacy font aliases set to Unicode
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 Summary: legacy font aliases set to Unicode Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Final Platform: All URL: http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/dre.png OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: sndirsch@novell.com ReportedBy: bernd.paysan@gmx.de QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: Other Hi Stefan, Problem: Some old, not well maintained applications use fonts like "fixed" or "6x13", which are defined in /usr/share/fonts/misc/fonts.alias. Up to now, these fonts were iso8859-1 encoded (single-byte fonts, latin1 encoding). Now in 11.0, they are all iso10646-1, i.e. two-byte Unicode fonts. These old applications (one example: Cadence 5.1.41, Display Resource Editor, see attached URL for screenshot how it looks like) certainly can't cope with two-byte fonts. The solution is to revert these aliases (especially fixed, which is also the default font if no font name is given on XQueryLoadFont) to latin1 encoding. The question here is: Why has this been changed? These simple fonts haven't been used by recent apps for quite some time (I think Emacs 21 is probably an exception, but then Emacs 21 is not really that recent, and Emacs 21 actually knows how to handle the situation ;-), so the applications expect to find the same old font as they always did, otherwise they break. New, unicode-aware applications won't use them, anyway (they use Xft and Type1 or TrueType fonts). I leave the severity to "normal", as I don't really know how to rank it. It only affects broken applications. I would recommend to fix it as proposed, since that's how it always used to be, and applications that ask for legacy fonts unlikely work well with Unicode, anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c1 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mfabian@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |bernd.paysan@gmx.de --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-07-02 05:46:51 MDT --- Thanks for the report. Where can I find thes applications (Cadence 5.1.41, Display Resource Editor)?
The question here is: Why has this been changed?
Background: See Bug #46285 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User bernd.paysan@gmx.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c2 --- Comment #2 from Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> 2008-07-02 05:59:37 MDT --- Unfortunately, Cadence IC is proprietary software (and quite expensive), so you can't easily find it (legally) on the net - maybe look for some Chinese pirate software repository ;-). The main point is that it doesn't help to fix the applications that use "fixed". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c3 --- Comment #3 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-07-02 06:39:45 MDT --- And where can I find this "Display Resource Editor"? Or is this part of Cadence IC? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User bernd.paysan@gmx.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c4 --- Comment #4 from Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> 2008-07-02 06:48:39 MDT --- Yes, that's part of Cadence IC. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c5 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|bernd.paysan@gmx.de | Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #5 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-07-02 06:51:25 MDT --- Well, this means that we cannot investigate this issue. I suggest to reopen once you can make available an application, where this issue can be reproduced. Thanks. For now I need to mark it as INVALID. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405683#c6 --- Comment #6 from Mike Fabian <mfabian@novell.com> 2008-07-02 07:23:41 MDT --- Bernd Paysan> The main point is that it doesn't help to fix the applications that Bernd Paysan> use "fixed". Making these aliases expand to Unicode fonts helped users of several older applications, especially xterm. Many users had these aliases in their ~/.Xresources and then wondered why they cannot use an € symbol for example. I didn’t know that there are applications who cannot handle the iso10646-1 fonts at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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