https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User dominique.leuenberger@tmf-group.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c1 Dominique Leuenberger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dominique.leuenberger@tmf-g | |roup.com --- Comment #1 from Dominique Leuenberger 2009-02-10 01:58:07 MST --- *** Bug 470523 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470523 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User aj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c2 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |aj@novell.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Andreas Jaeger 2009-02-25 06:41:41 MST --- If you use NetworkManager, you have to use it for the whole system. NetworkManager has dial-up functionality, please use that. If you use manually wvdial and have NetworkManager running, you run two things that do not work together. This breaks - and we will not fix it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c4 B. Wielens changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #4 from B. Wielens 2009-02-25 16:18:44 MST --- If that is the case, then WHERE THE HELL IS IT? my modem is configured Via YAST, kInternet can use it, (which also fails to set DNS servers, BTW) and there is NO dial-up option anywhere in networkManager. NM only finds eth0 and wlan0, but no modem. I recall when it was first introduced, there was an option for dial-up, but it disappeared after the next release of openSuSE and I have not seen it since. Believe me, if NM had a dial-up option I would be using it, so as to avoid Firefox whining about being in offline mode every single time I start it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User dominique.leuenberger@tmf-group.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c6 --- Comment #6 from Dominique Leuenberger 2009-02-26 00:57:09 MST --- (In reply to comment #5)

So, let me restate: Use the traditional setup if you need this to work.

Yaiks... BT modems are mostlyu sed (I guess :) ) on notebooks, where NM is almost mandatory to be used (office network, home network, wifi at the airport and so on) and in cases nothing else is available you (at least me) fall back to GPRS over BT connection. For the time being I think I stay with 'wvdial and then fixing /etc/resolv.conf'. Is there a good way to tell the system that 'there is a connection' so that FF does not believe to have the need to work in offline mode? (also other apps..) I think there was a d-bus call that could be issued for this

to have Modem support in NM is a feature request, and let's move it to Tambet for that.

Great. Thanks for this. Tambet: if you need any help in testing, feel free: I'm here and looking forward in being able to use this feature ;) so far NM supports Mobile Broadband, but it's not possible to use it over a BT connected 'modem'. I think that the upstream discussed 'Modem Manager' might be of some uise here? (there was some upstream work in trunk, but not in the 0.7 series). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c8 --- Comment #8 from B. Wielens 2009-02-26 04:50:48 MST --- FWIW, I'm actually not using a BT modem... it is an internal laptop modem, device ID 11c11040, accessed through /dev/ttyAGS3 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c10 --- Comment #10 from B. Wielens 2009-02-26 12:53:13 MST --- Created an attachment (id=275797) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=275797) lshal output as requested. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c12 B. Wielens changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|Uniacke1@yahoo.ca | --- Comment #12 from B. Wielens 2009-02-26 13:08:29 MST --- Created an attachment (id=275799) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=275799) lspci output for sound card info. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c14 --- Comment #14 from B. Wielens 2009-02-27 05:46:19 MST --- Hmmm... as I've said before, NM did at one point have support for these types of modems- there definitely was a dial-up option. Is that the reason it was deleted? If so, it seems rather strange, since one doesn't really need to have NM detect the modem- all it would need to do is see if one is configured in YAST, and if so, read and use those settings for modem serial port etc. However, I'm not familiar with how these things are implemented, so I don't know if it is quite as simple to do from a programming perspective. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User aspiers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c16 --- Comment #16 from Adam Spiers 2009-03-02 07:13:24 MST --- I also see this. My USB Sierra Wireless AirCard 875U doesn't work with (k)networkmanager, so as per comment #9 I'll submit a separate bug for that. In the mean time, I'll have to use wvdial and manually edit resolv.conf as a workaround. Therefore I would VERY much appreciate an answer to the following: (In reply to comment #6)

Is there a good way to tell the system that 'there is a connection' so that FF does not believe to have the need to work in offline mode? (also other apps..) I think there was a d-bus call that could be issued for this

I have searched high and low on the internet for a way of doing this, but despite finding many other people who also need it, I found no solution, and I couldn't find docs on the NetworkManager dbus methods either. Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User Uniacke1@yahoo.ca added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c18 --- Comment #18 from B. Wielens 2009-03-02 08:32:26 MST --- Seems to me the easiest way to do this (and avoid the need to actually detect devices) is to read the modem config from YAST, and then use that config connect and dial- That way, there is no need for individual support for each device. If I had more C experience I'd be willing to try this, but as it stands, my forté is other languages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714 User tambet@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473714#c20 --- Comment #20 from Tambet Ingo 2009-03-02 09:34:37 MST --- The applications call NetworkManager DBus API and add signal listeners for changes. Yes, firefox and pidgin might not care about the details, but some other applications might. It's the matter of having consistent public API. For example, an application might take advantage of details like "Are we connected to wireless AP 'foo'?" or "do we have connection to the corporate private network (either directly or through VPN)?". What would the /nm-tool/nm-applet/main menu/... show for connection details? Which device would it mark as active? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.