[Bug 337526] New: Problems to Boot Windows 98 after 10.3 install
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526 Summary: Problems to Boot Windows 98 after 10.3 install Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: marcel@hilzinger.hu QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- We got reports from at least two different readers, that after the installation of 10.3 windows 98 fails to boot with the following message: "XMS-Treiber nicht geladen bzw. defekt, kann A20-Leitung nicht steuern, Himem nicht geladen" HIMEM.SYS not found Here the full reports in german (e-mails from our readers): Zur Sache: Die Windows-Datei "himem.sys" ist im Windows-Verzeichnis vorhanden und offensichtlich auch lesbar, denn wenn ich Linux "lösche" (fdisk /mbr) startet anstandslos windows98. Bei der Installation von OpenSuse habe ich den Bootloader grub sowohl automatisch als auch händisch installiert. Ergebnis w.o. beschrieben. Da dieser Fahler auf beiden meiner Computer (Gigabyte Board 7VRX mit Athlon XP Prozessor) auftritt und meine Forensuche bezüglich gleicher Fehler erfolglos blieb, wollte ich mich vergewissern, ob Rückmeldungen im Sinne meiner Anfrage nach Erscheinen der EASY-Linux 4/2007 bei Ihnen vorliegen. In Ihrer Mailingliste habe ich zwischenzeitlich einen zutreffenden Eintrag gefunden, der noch keine Lösung anbietet. Gleichwohl bedanke ich mich, daß Sie sich meines Problems angenommen haben. [...] [...]
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, als ehemaliger Abonnent der o. a. Zeitschrift beziehe ich diese weiterhin über den hiesigen Zeitschriftenhandel. Meine Anfrage: Die Installation des o. a. Betriebssystems mißlingt mir insofern, daß ich über den Auswahlbildschirm -wenn ich Windows anwähle - im DOS-Modus lande, der den Hinweis enthält, es fehle die Datei HIMEM.SYS im Windowsverzeichnis. Tatsächlich ist diese Aussage unzutreffend.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c1 Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |marcel@hilzinger.hu --- Comment #1 from Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> 2007-10-30 06:39:42 MST --- Thank you for your bugreport but we will need the report from your readers in english. We also need YaST2 logs to be attached. For more information see http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c2 Marcel Hilzinger <marcel@hilzinger.hu> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marcel@hilzinger.hu Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|marcel@hilzinger.hu | --- Comment #2 from Marcel Hilzinger <marcel@hilzinger.hu> 2007-11-08 02:17:03 MST --- We had some more reports in the meantime. Windows shows only the prompt an complains about missing himem.sys (file exists). fdisk /mbr fixes the problem, but with reinstallation of grub it's there again. So it's 99% a grub bug in 10.3 and you do probably not need YaST logs... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c3 --- Comment #3 from Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> 2007-11-09 13:07:34 MST --- Here is nice "how to" handle grub bugs bugs and how to attach right debug files is here: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/grub -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c4 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |marcel@hilzinger.hu --- Comment #4 from Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> 2007-11-12 08:35:28 MST --- And please attach /boot/grub/menu.lst from one of this installation to be sure that it's not caused by bad grub config file and thus Yast bug because this configuration is being generated by Yast. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c5 --- Comment #5 from Marcel Hilzinger <marcel@hilzinger.hu> 2007-11-13 01:48:10 MST --- Created an attachment (id=183120) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=183120) Grub menue file for the Windows 98 Bootproblem -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526 User mmrazik@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c8 Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |marcel@hilzinger.hu --- Comment #8 from Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> 2007-12-04 09:49:16 MST --- We need more information if we want to proceed here. menu.lst looks okay, it also seems windows actually starts to boot but then stops because its unable to load himem.sys. Could you try to boot some windows rescue system and find out whats going on with the windows partition? Is himem.sys there? Is the filesystem OK? Could you please run some filesystem check on this partition to find out? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526 User mmrazik@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c9 Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|marcel@hilzinger.hu | --- Comment #9 from Martin Mrazik <mmrazik@novell.com> 2007-12-04 09:50:22 MST --- (In reply to comment #2 from Marcel Hilzinger)
We had some more reports in the meantime. Windows shows only the prompt an complains about missing himem.sys (file exists).
fdisk /mbr
fixes the problem, but with reinstallation of grub it's there again. So it's 99% a grub bug in 10.3 and you do probably not need YaST logs...
oops. Sorry I didn't realize this comment is here. Removing NEEDINFO. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526 User chrubis@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c10 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |duwe@novell.com --- Comment #10 from Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> 2007-12-06 05:56:34 MST --- Reassigning to grub maintainer to look on. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526 User duwe@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=337526#c11 Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #11 from Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> 2008-01-02 06:24:11 MST --- Grub unconditionally disables* the A20 Gate now (*: enables full memory access). This has proven very beneficial to all Operating Systems, but obviously hurts graphical program loaders like '98. Himem.sys seems to be confused if things are already in a usable state, producing the false loading error. Workarounds: * use a standalone boot selector to choose between '98 and operating systems * find a capable himem.sys from third parties. * upgrade the gaming platform to a supported version (e.g. XP) * stick to a SuSE Linux from 1998 as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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