https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222180 dkukawka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kukuk@novell.com Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | ------- Comment #2 from dkukawka@novell.com 2006-11-17 09:49 MST ------- Sorry, but then split off the translation part of the settings to other files outside of /etc. There are also no translations for KDE settings or system config files. These files are mixed (config defaults and translations of _descriptions_), break FHS and blow up the size of etc (the /etc/opt/gnome dir is e.g. on my machine (without install GNOME) 28 MB of 39 MB complete size of /etc ). IIRC kukuk is responsible for FHS stuff, I CC him. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222180 dkukawka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Component|GNOME |GNOME Product|openSUSE 10.2 |openSUSE 10.3 Resolution|WONTFIX | Version|Beta 2 plus |Alpha 1 ------- Comment #4 from dkukawka@novell.com 2006-11-17 10:28 MST ------- Then fix this also upstream. This "diverges us ... from upstream" does not mean upstream is correct. Nobody say break LSB. FHS say this about complete etc: --------------------------- /etc : Host-specific system configuration Purpose The /etc hierarchy contains configuration files. A "configuration file" is a local file used to control the operation of a program; it must be static and cannot be an executable binary. [4] --------------------------- I can't see how translations "control the operation of a program" or are a config. Simply split off the translation part of the files to an other file. This should be possible also upstream. I know this is not fixable for 10.2 but the GNOME maintainer should try this for 10.3 ... we need here a discussion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222180 dkukawka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | ------- Comment #6 from dkukawka@novell.com 2006-11-19 11:32 MST ------- 1.) I don't see any /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base.xml and I can't find any package in next-i386 providing this file. And if there would be such a mixed file, also this would be IMO wrong. 2.) Nobody say split of the description from the config file. Only split off the translation parts and provide simply only the english descriptions, as this also do all other config files (take e.g. a look at /etc/vimrc /etc/wgetrc /etc/xscreensaver/zoom.xml) 3.) nobody say "diverging from upstream". Take a look at comment #4. As first: only because something is done upstream this mean it's correct. And second: why would us stop this to discuss and fix this at SUSE _and_ upstream? 4.) config files with translations make it impossible to edit them e.g. via vim because the translations break/waste the screen with not displayable chars. So, why is it impossible to remove the translations to extra files in /usr or /opt and read the translations if needed? 5.) If every config file provide translations for descriptions config options/variables /etc is 100MB or bigger and this is not needed. I can't be that /etc/opt/gnome need 70% of the size of complete /etc Btw. I'm not a LSB specialist, but LSB 3.0 reference only to FSH and say IMO nothing more as FSH about /etc -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222180 ------- Comment #9 from danw@novell.com 2006-11-25 08:53 MST ------- The long-term plan for gconf (http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/plans.html) involves getting rid of the installed schemas in /etc, and only having them in $datadir. No one is actively hacking on this plan upstream, but they're unlikely to accept large architectural changes that don't move closer to that plan. So if we want to get this fixed upstream, we probably have to fix it that way (implementing #2 and #3 from the "important changes" list), not by splitting out the translations within the current system. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.