[Bug 805344] New: Apper - Windows that Provides Escalation of Auth to root is NEVER INFOCUS and cannot Resolve Dependencies
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805344 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805344#c0 Summary: Apper - Windows that Provides Escalation of Auth to root is NEVER INFOCUS and cannot Resolve Dependencies Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.1 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 12.1 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE4 Workspace AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: secure@aphofis.com QAContact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0 When Apper calls for escalation of authority window, the window is not infocus. Infact it is so easily missed being behind over other application Windows or the escalation of authority window appears minimised on the task bar, again not in focus. Apper does not adhere to standards of the Windowing Manager and makes up its own rules. For an application to not adhere to the windowing conventions, like apper doesn’t, it looks out of place breaking all standard windowing conventions. This is more than apparent on testing and Apper still has the some horrendous hangovers from Kpackage kit of 11.4. Appear never stays visible in the system tray despite setting to always visible. Apper cannot also resolve conflicts and the allowance to change vendors and clean up, offered by Yast Online update, cannot be applied by Apper's logic of resolving conflicts. Until the conflicts are resolved by user Yast>Online update further updates by apper cannot ever be completed as the kpackage kit cannot resolve past or current dependency issues. Suggest that the settings in Apper adhere to the options available in Yast>Online update This forces the user to use Yast>Online updates which does resolve conflicts of this nature before any further update can possibly be installed via Apper and all sense of logic go out the window, so to speak Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.100% Reproducible, HOWEVER in the unlikely event it cannot be reproduced please tell me what log files you need for assistance in this bug 2. 3. Actual Results: Apper is not reliable...Its better for the user to always initiate an Online>Update via Yast as apper does not come close in the functionality of Yast>Online Update Expected Results: I have no idea of how this conflict in the Windowing Manager escaped alpha testing The bug is about the version of OpenSuse 12.1...By creating KDE type bug here a duplicate bug is auto created in KDE Bugzilla so continuity can be maintained in the total Software Version... Please ask me for any further assistance or log files if required -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Stephan Kulow
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The popup is done by PackageKit daemon through polkit. You better report it upstream as this is nothing openSUSE can solve.
The Product is opensuse 12.1...It is NOT KDE??????. I will not accept close of this bug until it has been resolved in the Opensuse Product. Every KDE bug that is made here in Bugzilla creates an auto duplicate in KDE Bugzilla...If you close the bug here it closes the auto bug upstream. We are all here to resolve bug and not to squabble of who is at fault or responsible for this fix. The Product is Opensuse 12.1 and remains so...Escalate to QA without delays as unacceptable! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Scott Couston
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Hrvoje Senjan
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Scott Couston
Scott, as Raymond mentioned - please report each issue in a separate report, and against the correct components. Furthermore, for issues that are indeed in the apper application, report those upstream. Thanks.
Apper is the Software Manager that is part of a default OpenSuse 12.3 installation of both KDE or GNOME. Whilst it remains a default addition to OpenSuse12.3 and its complete packing list OpenSuse 12.3 is the product. Bugs are now moved around as upstream or downstream so may I ask what nature of bug qualifies to be reported under OpenSuse Buzilla. If the answer is somewhat different to the component choice of Bugzilla opensuse, we can all save a lot of duplication and wasting time moving paper from one desk to another. Reporting Bugs is not an emotive consideration and nothing I write enters that realm. Its based of sheer fact and reproducibility and concise information. In order to halt bugs being written in Opensuse Buzilla please review the component list drop down to only show these components. I am sorry if the translation of my Australia English may not translate well and that is why everything I Wright is REASONABLE by way of its nature and constructive. You may re close this bug, however do not close it as INVALID. INVALID is not what this bug report contains -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Christian Trippe
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Scott Couston
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Scott Couston
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Hrvoje Senjan
Using APPER as a software management tool ...
Scott, please then read the wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB%3aApper#What_is_Apper.3F We are shipping apper as an *updater*, and YaST/zypper are recommended for "software management". Again, it has been said already how to deal, how and where to report specific and individual bug reports... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Using APPER as a software management tool ...
Scott, please then read the wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB%3aApper#What_is_Apper.3F We are shipping apper as an *updater*, and YaST/zypper are recommended for "software management". Again, it has been said already how to deal, how and where to report specific and individual bug reports...
Hrvoje..I understand perfectly my point is to remove it from default installs of KDE/Gnome. It needs to be optional not mandatory for the very same reasons you just wrote to me about..:-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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