http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662#c1 Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #1 from Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> 2009-09-09 05:35:21 MDT --- It has to be obsoleted. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662#c3 Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |fs@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> 2009-09-21 02:10:34 MDT --- Thinking about it again, I do not know what is wanted and what we can offer... ATM, for English we have opensuse-manuals_en with all books a properly interlinked HTML output and separate *_en-pdf packages (1 per book). For foreign languages, a big opensuse-manuals_* package (HTML) does not make that much sense because it is incompletely translated. Thus I'd prefer stand-alone HTML packages (1 per book). If we want to go that road my statement was wrong and I must remove the obsolete statement from manual_de. Sorry for the confusion. Frank, what do you think, please? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662#c5 --- Comment #5 from Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> 2009-09-21 04:11:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #4)

Anyway, I do not think it is a good idea to have different package layouts in different languages,

Yes, but sometimes in the end that's less confusing to the "foreign" user.

or to obsolete a documentation package that has been installed by default when installing another documentation package.

Sure, I'll avoid this. This would be a bug and nothing else.

3 possible solution I can think of (for all languages):

* Make each book a separate package and let the user decide which ones to install. If wanted we could create a pop-up when selecting the package saying that inter-book links will only work when all books are installed. We should also have a pattern with all manuals for each language * Make each book a separate package and RPM-require all other books in the selected language. Translated doc sets will have to require the English versions of books not translated. * Make one big package containing all books for each language. Translated doc packages will have to include the English versions of books not translated.

The problem with the last option for partially translated books is that some bits are coming from the _localized_ style-sheets. Thus while the text is English framework stuff ("see Kapitel 42 'Printing'", or "Inhaltsverzeichnis"). That especially bad, if we'd produced untranslated PDFs with the localized style-sheets. References from stand-alone HTML books are not "hot". Thus the user will never see 404. Option two is complicate. I'd just install the English set _always_--it is our reference documentation. Someone who has the power is encouraged to take a decision. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662#c7 Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com Target Milestone|--- |Milestone 8 --- Comment #7 from Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> 2009-09-24 01:08:18 MDT --- All this discussion (c#4, c#5, c#6) is more about business products (SLE). On openSUSE opensuse-manuals_en and opensuse-manuals_de are identical (1 big html package with all the books of the set called opensuse-manuals_{de,en} and separated *-pdf packages). This means you must drop opensuse-gnomequick_de. How can I do this without the PDB? BTW, I just renamed opensuse-manual_de to opensuse-manuals_de and issued this sr: osc sr home:keichwa:branches:Documentation opensuse-manuals_de openSUSE:Factory Warning: failed to fetch meta data for 'openSUSE:Factory' package 'opensuse-manuals_de' (new package?) created request id 20988 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537662#c9 Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #9 from Karl Eichwalder <ke@novell.com> 2009-09-28 02:49:22 MDT --- Thanks! I just created "21174". Please re-open if this is not sufficient. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.