https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c1 theo opitz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fenriswoolf@gmx.net --- Comment #1 from theo opitz 2010-09-09 13:56:54 UTC --- i am not all too versed in cli, please send me any codes you may require ... thank, theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c2 --- Comment #2 from theo opitz 2010-09-12 16:06:24 UTC --- alright, after a little tinkering i found this solution ... it's not a pretty one (opensuse still needs to fix this problem in the 11.3 distro) but it works: 1. make a clean install of opensuse 11.2 2. go through all updates during installation 3.when install is complete, delete the 11.2 dvd- (oss) and the cd (non-oss) repositories 4. add the 11.3 dvd- and cd-repositories 5. change the online repositories to 11.3 (i.e. download.opensuse.org/distribition/11.2/repo/oss/ --> download.opensuse.org/distribition/11.3/repo/oss/) 6. open terminal and switch to root privileges (type: su - and: yourrootpassword) 7. type: zypper ref 8. type: zypper dup (distribution upgrade) 9. resolve depedency conflicts 10. execute distritribution upgrade 11. when done, type: zypper clean 12. reboot your computer (any other systems [windows, ubuntu, etc] will not show in the initial boot menu, do not panic) 13. goto yast->system->bootloader 14. delete all boot option with the old kernel (i.e 11.3 installed 2.6.34..., but there were still 11.2's 2.6.31s... on the menu) 15. select opensuse 2.6.34... (default) as your default boot option 16. activate any non-opensuse boot options (i.e. windows, ubuntu, etc) 17. click: ok, reboot, and 11.3 works (18. install any software you need) again, this is tedious and novell really needs to fix 11.3's bootloader issue good luck, theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c3 Josef Reidinger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |fenriswoolf@gmx.net --- Comment #3 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-04 11:23:08 UTC --- Please attach yast2 logs so I can see why it boots directly to win7 - http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_YaST#Reading_YaST_logs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c5 --- Comment #5 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-04 12:39:14 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)

uh .... as you can see, i kind of fixed this myself (see above) ... not very elegantly, i admit, but i have got a clean distro of 11.3 running ... i could try to reinstall on the other pc, but it will take me some time to respond ... also how do i get into the logs, if i don't get 11.3 booted? ... theo

At the end of installation pack files under /var/log/YaST2 and /mnt/var/log/YaST2/ or boot via rescue mode, mount disk and copy logs to e.g. USB or via network somewhere. It should work, as problem if happen appear as Error 18 returned by GRUB if BIOS support only lba-24. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c7 --- Comment #7 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-05 12:18:56 UTC --- (In reply to comment #6)

i do not understand why you guys are so hooked on the notion that it is a bios problem when it installs 11.2 without any problems ... i think i am missing something here ... something got changed from 11.2. to 11.3 that generates this error only in 11.3 ... i will install the 11.3 on my pc and try to access the log .. .theo

It is not error, it is just warning and it is only potential problem if bios support only lba24 which cannot address such address. But if installer doesn't report any fail, problem is somewhere else and I need logs to find what is real reason. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c9 --- Comment #9 from theo opitz 2010-10-05 13:50:25 UTC --- thank you ... i was beginning to think i am in a circus running in circles ... theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c11 --- Comment #11 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-05 14:12:09 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8)

(In reply to comment #7)

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It is not error, it is just warning and it is only potential problem if bios support only lba24 which cannot address such address.

No, it is NOT only a warning! I am not the first user that writes here, that the system does NOT boot into Linux after "installation" - not even show the GRUB menu. Is it so difficult to read, what people write here? But I bet, I too do not get an answer when I ask: Why then does the old 11.2 install IN THE SAME PARTITION, ON THE SAME COMPUTER without problems. What other proof is necessary to blame it on the 11.3 installation routine?

Hi, this message is only warning and something else which may be related (but also maybe not ) breaks booting and as I say without logs I cannot investigate what really happen. My expectation why it stop working is that something change in bootloader between these two releases, but there is more changes. So still please attach logs so I can find what happen ( because if problem is only in lba24 grub install fail ), so disc size should not break booting. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c13 --- Comment #13 from theo opitz 2010-10-06 02:49:33 UTC --- -- started fresh install on a desktop own physical internal hard drive of 298 GB (i had opensuse 11.2 installed on this machine without problems ... when i tried to upgrade, i started running into this problem) partitions: 20G swap 150G root 128G home -- setup for install went smooth, but now at the installation settings, under booting is the warning: “ Bootloader is installed on a partition that does not lie entirely below 128 GB. The system might not boot." -- no matter how i change the settings, the warning remains: bootloader type: grub status location: /dev/sda (or sdb) (MBR) change location: boot from MBR (enabled or disabled) boot from "/" partition (enabled or disabled) -- i shall continue with installation set for 'boot from MBR enabled' and 'boot from root partition disabled', -- doing default system install (no changes to software selection) -- partition formatting, and package installation appears to proceed normally -- finished package installation, screen went black, only way to get back in is to push and hold on-button -- system will boot into win7 how do i get into the log? ... theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c15 --- Comment #15 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-06 08:09:44 UTC --- (In reply to comment #12)

To be a bit more exact: There seem to be 2 effects. I read some user comments, that speak only of this warning and after the warning the system DOES boot. In my case, the warning appears in the beginning of the installation progress as described already. At the end of the installation progress a message appears, that warns again and suggests to rectify the boot configuration files with a button to jump to the file editor. But the entries there seem to be correct. Even when I change something there, this message keeps coming. If I choose to skip the "correction" then the said effect of boot fail arises.

So, if ONLY the warning in the beginning appears, there seems to be a chance of booting, if in the end of the installation the second message appears, then you are lost.

Does your BIOS support lba32 or just 24? It is important in this case.

I must admit, I am a little bit fed up with openSUSE now. I gave up and installed Linux Mint - by the way, also above 128 GB (but I understand, it uses GRUB 2 instead).

grub2 use different way how to start from partition. GRUB 1 use BIOS to skip somewhere, so BIOS must be able to address space on disc, where is kernel. GRUB2 use different way, where BIOS addressing is not needed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c17 --- Comment #17 from Hartmut Braun 2010-10-06 09:15:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #15)

Does your BIOS support lba32 or just 24? It is important in this case.

Still on the BIOS-warpath? ;-) Before I check this: let me repeat my question: Why does 11.2 install without problems in the same partition, or has this LBA difference only become relevant in 11.3? Would it not be more fruitful to check which changes have been made in the "boot department" from 11.2 to 11.3? Now, let me see (I am typing on a different computer now). The board in question is a 2 years old ASUS M3A78-EM. The BIOS only offers me to choose between LBA "disabled" and "auto", which is on "auto" of course. Also the manual does not give more information. So, how could I check this difference? How are the chances, that this fairly modern board does not support LBA32? Would I not have problems then addressing the full space of a 1.5 TB disk (which I have not)?

grub2 use different way how to start from partition. GRUB 1 use BIOS to skip somewhere, so BIOS must be able to address space on disc, where is kernel. GRUB2 use different way, where BIOS addressing is not needed.

Maybe now a good opportunity to think about implementing GRUB2 in 11.4 or going back to the 11.2 routine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c19 --- Comment #19 from Emina Saric 2010-10-07 18:54:12 UTC --- I have the same problem. Do you think moving a partition so that it lies below 128 GB is possible? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c20 Josef Reidinger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P3 - Medium |P5 - None --- Comment #20 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-08 07:07:33 UTC --- (In reply to comment #19)

I have the same problem. Do you think moving a partition so that it lies below 128 GB is possible?

At the first please don't change priority. I or my manager (it means also opensuse community manager) can change it and it indicate how serious it is among of other my bugs ( so only person who has overview of all my bugs can set it). At the second it is possible to move partition as I write above. If root partition is smaler then 128 GB then move it as first partition. If it is bigger, then create separate boot partition and place it at beginning. At third - I still needs logs, could anyone who reproduce bug add it there, please? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c22 --- Comment #22 from theo opitz 2010-10-10 01:32:15 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=393946) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=393946) yast2 changes log (?) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c24 --- Comment #24 from theo opitz 2010-10-10 01:35:40 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=393948) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=393948) yast2 bootloader -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c26 --- Comment #26 from theo opitz 2010-10-10 01:43:00 UTC --- there's another yast2 log-1 which exceeds 10Mb and won't attach ... theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c Josef Reidinger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #393947|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c28 --- Comment #28 from theo opitz 2010-10-12 12:50:57 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=394412) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=394412) yast2 log-1 hope this zip-file works ... theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c30 Josef Reidinger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|fenriswoolf@gmx.net | --- Comment #30 from Josef Reidinger 2010-10-26 14:52:44 UTC --- Ugh, sorry you don't remove needinfo flag so I overlook it. I check your logs. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c32 --- Comment #32 from theo opitz 2010-12-01 15:45:15 UTC --- boot order is: dvd-cd-200gig hdd-320gig hdd with the bootloader installed in the mbr the 200gig contains exclusively win7pro the 320gig is all linux (swap/root/home) not sure whether switching boot order does anything, since i put grub into the mbr theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c34 --- Comment #34 from theo opitz 2011-02-04 14:20:48 UTC --- greetings, anything the logs revealed? theo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c36 Josef Reidinger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |fenriswoolf@gmx.net --- Comment #36 from Josef Reidinger 2011-02-11 15:57:31 UTC --- I just get idea what could be wrong. Could you try switch disk order in BIOS boot settings? Maybe problem is in misrecognized initial disk. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c39 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- InfoProvider|fenriswoolf@gmx.net |jabailo@texeme.com --- Comment #39 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2011-10-24 12:48:41 CEST --- I've just tested 12.1 and had no problems booting from a partition above 128GB. Please attach yast logs. Although I think the problem is not the bootloader config tool. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Report_a_YaST_bug#I_reported_a_YaST2_bug.2C_... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638232#c41 --- Comment #41 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2011-10-25 14:47:21 CEST --- No, there's no VM check. I suspect some drive geometry issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.