[Bug 1159882] New: Excessive swapping when buffers / cache expand beyond free physical RAM
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 Bug ID: 1159882 Summary: Excessive swapping when buffers / cache expand beyond free physical RAM Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: x86-64 OS: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Kernel Assignee: kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com Reporter: rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.88 Safari/537.36 Build Identifier: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/538586-observing-excessive-swappi... --- Same behavior here: Started dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null bs=4M with no swap being active. Everything was fine until I turned swap on. The machine would freeze immediately. Swapoff runs for minutes until finally succeeding. I think it is a kernel bug. --- Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. copy large file (e.g. 2x RAM size) with cp / use dd that triggers block device caching, eventually swap 2. watch system suffer from high iowait on device holding root-fs & swap Actual Results: Do NOT increasing cache beyond free physical RAM size by swapping Expected Results: Smooth operation, no lags -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c1 --- Comment #1 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- The system I'm currently running test on: CPU: Dual Core Intel Core2 T5200 Kernel: 5.3.12-2-default x86_64 Mem: 861.9/1969.0 MiB (43.8%) Storage: 29.82 GiB (51.0% used) Drives: Local Storage: total: 29.82 GiB used: 15.20 GiB (51.0%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SDSSDRC032G size: 29.82 GiB speed: 1.5 Gb/s serial: <filter> Other laptops are affected as well, less so due to being a whole lot newer with more RAM and faster storage. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 Malcolm Lewis <malcolmlewis@cableone.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |malcolmlewis@cableone.net -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 Karl Mistelberger <karl.mistelberger@nefkom.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |karl.mistelberger@nefkom.ne | |t -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c3 --- Comment #3 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- I first noticed it on my work laptop, when copying a VM image (about 30G) from A to B. That machine has an i7, NVME storage (samsung 960 EVO) and 16GB of RAM. At one point it was hitting swap massively (high IO, not amount swapped out at any given time), and the GUI would freeze for seconds at a time. I was wondering why the heck it would start using swap at all. All of this badness goes away when turning swap off completely. I don't have anything useful to say as to when this may have started, just that I've never before experienced such pathological behaviour when just copying a file! As described in the forum posts, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I do expect a massive performance penalty when swap is used, that is not the question. The question here is, why it hits swap at all. My suspicion is that buffers grow to a point that triggers swapping, which should never happen. For convenience I started testing on the old laptop, different hardware, slower, much less RAM, just to rule out some freak HW issue or configuration differences. Both run up to date TW. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c4 --- Comment #4 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- Created attachment 826954 --> http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/attachment.cgi?id=826954&action=edit vmstat traces - all swap off - all swap on - all swap off again -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c5 --- Comment #5 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- I ran this during taking the vmstat traces: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null status=progress All swap space was turned off initially, transfer speed was compatible with a SATA-I connection, about 150MB/s. Then swap was turned on and badness occurred. Transfer speed dropped to less than 50% (swap on same device, 2x IO, might be OK by the numbers), and the GUI became painlessly unresponsive. I ran this running a plasma5 session + tmux. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c8 --- Comment #8 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- Yet another process that is affected by this: Restoring a VM (Virtualbox) from a disk image (clonezilla), Host IO cache is on. Most of the writes end up in buffers, at one point swapping kicks in, just a few 100s of MB, nothing serious. GUI performance gets rather choppy. Turning swap off instantly resolves it on my i7. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c9 --- Comment #9 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- Created attachment 827191 --> http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/attachment.cgi?id=827191&action=edit vmtraces running dd -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c11 --- Comment #11 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- Could it be answered why it is swapping at all? I question the rationale of swapping to increase buffers. As everything works fluently with swap off, I fail to see the necessity for swapping in the first place. My opinion: "just copy the damn data" and limit buffers to actually free RAM, shrink buffers when RAM is required elsewhere, THEN swap if absolutely necessary. I will acquire some data on my i7 machine while doing the VM restore. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c13 --- Comment #13 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- This bug report may be related. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196729 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c15 --- Comment #15 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- It seems there have been improvements! So far I cannot reproduce on my i7 machine, which is great. I will try on the older core2 duo. I've also asked on the forum thread for others to test it again and report back. Maybe it's gone :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c16 --- Comment #16 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- I cannot reproduce on my old laptop as well. This is looking GOOD ! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c21 --- Comment #21 from robert spitzenpfeil <rs.opensuse@spitzenpfeil.org> --- I haven't been affected by this in quite a while. Let's close it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c22 Miroslav Beneš <mbenes@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #22 from Miroslav Beneš <mbenes@suse.com> --- Per comment 21. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c23 Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |radelahunt@gmail.com --- Comment #23 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Confirmed this bug exists in OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2. https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/544618-Hard-Disk-Activity-Memory-... Brand new Dell Inspiron 7591 laptop. 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD. dd, rsync, and over operations that use lots of disk I/O result in the system dramatically digging into swap. Even with swappiness=1, swap use (of 1GB swap) increased to 105 MB (10%). Transcript of forum post: ----- QUOTE BEGIN I do not know where else to post this, so here goes. I have a clean basic XFCE installation of OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2. This behavior happens on both the Asus R541U laptop I used to have (8GB RAM, 512MB Swap) and my new Dell Inspiron 7591 (16GB RAM, 1GB swap). I would boot into OpenSUSE to do some "hard drive wrangling", i.e. making disk images of hard drives via USB adapters (dd if=/some/device | gzip -c > imagefile) or zeroizing old disks (dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/device). As soon as I begin the dd process, my RAM and swap climb through the roof. Almost no applications are open when this occurs. For example: 1) When I was using my Asus to read the 512GB SSD via an adapter to another USB external hard drive (BACKUP) (i.e. dd if=/dev/nvme0n1 | gzip -c > /run/media/robert/BACKUP/Windows/dell7591.img.gz) 2) When I was backing up my files on the Asus (rsync -Hav /home/robert/ /run/media/robert/BACKUP/dell/robert/) 3) When I was copying the dd image to the new 1TB SSD upgrade for my dell (gunzip -c /run/media/robert/BACKUP/Windows/dell7591.img.gz | dd of=/dev/nvme0n1) 4) When I was just now zeroizing the old 512GB SSD via the same USB adapter (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb) 5) When I was synchronizing my incremental monthly backups (both 2TB external USB drives running LUKS) (rsync -Hav --delete --progress /run/media/robert/BACKUP/ /run/media/robert/BACKUP2/ ) It always seems connected to rsync/gzip/dd, i.e. heavy use of filesystems. If I boot OpenSUSE and I am just sitting in OpenSUSE using applications, usually it does not cause me to dig into swap. At the height of the zeroizing action, for example, swap use (16GB RAM, 1GB swap, new Dell Inspiron 7591) climbed to 108MB. It dropped to 11MB. Given that I have 16GB of RAM, such behavior is absolutely unacceptable. All the I/O should be happening on disks. I have not been able to triangulate, using top, what process is eating RAM so much. I am using EXT4 exclusively, no BTRFS anywhere. I have remounted all tmpfs entries to only give them 1GB of RAM to work with, as in the past this has prevented such excessive swappiness (believe it or not; it's difficult to prove; older versions of OpenSUSE, etc). I am willing to run experiments to see what's going on. I noticed that there were some btrfs components of systemd that were installed. I uninstalled them, but the problem remains. I don't understand how even running something complex as rsync + gzip + dd should need to dig into that much system RAM. I mean, I have 16GB! Have any memory leaks been reported on OpenSUSE? ----- END QUOTE I am very willing to provide any information to help resolve this apparent memory hole or memory leak. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Component|Kernel |Kernel Version|Current |Leap 15.2 Product|openSUSE Tumbleweed |openSUSE Distribution Target Milestone|--- |Leap 15.2 OS|Other |openSUSE Leap 15.2 Severity|Normal |Major -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c24 Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME |--- --- Comment #24 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I think I did this properly, but please help me because I'm new to BugZilla. I saved this to OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 because I experience it "in the wild" in LEAP 15.2. Please forgive me if this is not the right way to do it. Please contact me ASAP if you need anything: I really want to help the community. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c26 --- Comment #26 from Miroslav Beneš <mbenes@suse.com> --- I think it would have been better to open a new bug for Leap 15.2 and link it with this one, but whatever. Let's keep it here. It is not surprising to see it strikes 15.2 too. The original bug was reported against 5.3 kernel, which is in 15.2. It got somehow fixed in 5.6 at the latest. We may try to find the fixes but they may be too intrusive to backport. First, it would be nice to walk through the bug and provide the same info Michal and Vlastimil asked for the original report. That is, vmstat logs, swap on/swap off behaviour and such. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c27 --- Comment #27 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I had reinstalled OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 using the DVD but with network enabled, so what I should've gotten was a fresh installation of the most current stable OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2. VMSTAT information as requested: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/swapon/ http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/swapoff/ Basically, I had reinstalled OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 with the LUKS-contained LVM of /dev/system/home and /dev/system/swap but I had deleted the LV of swap and ran the system without swap. So the swapoff is a recording of vmstat while I was doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4K status=progress and the swapon directory is after I went back into the partitioner, recreated the swap LV, turned swap on, then ran the dd command above all over again. The system immediately dug into swap to about the 40MB mark. Running free -m second by second, I could see available RAM plummet and swap climb. I put other assorted diagnostic information in http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat such as dmesg, cpuinfo, lsmod, rpms, etc. I noted that the partitioner installed a package called nvme-cli-1.10-lp152.1.3.x86_64 when I clicked "accept" to add the swap LV. I am very determined to help get this fixed, so please notify me immediately if there's anything else I can help with. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c28 --- Comment #28 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Please note that I had set vm.vfs_cache_pressure=200 on this installation, so both the vmstat results above were while vfs_cache_pressure=200. I noticed that, while the system ran mostly fine with this set and with no swap, at boot sometimes the system seems to have some sort of deep process bogging down, as the keyboard (for instance) seems to not register every 5th key or so. I have to very closely watch the asterisks on log-in pages or else it throws off password typing, etc. Might be an unrelated bug, not sure. I expect that, because this laptop is brand new, there might be some early kernel bugs or new hardware issues, and I'd absolutely love to help out in any way I can. Even if it means running a debug kernel, if you can show me how. I have enabled multiple ACPI and other kernel boot time parameters in the boot command line to see if maybe one of these helps us find the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c29 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |arvidjaar@gmail.com --- Comment #29 from Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Miroslav Beneš from comment #26)
It is not surprising to see it strikes 15.2 too. The original bug was reported against 5.3 kernel, which is in 15.2. It got somehow fixed in 5.6 at the latest. We may try to find the fixes but they may be too intrusive to backport.
The commit 2c012a4ad1a2cd3fb5a0f9307b9d219f84eda1fa mentioned in comment #14 was effectively removed in commit b91ac374346ba206cfd568bb0ab830af6b205cfd which went into 5.5. I actually observed quite similar symptoms in Ubuntu 18.04 as soon as it bumped HWE kernel to 5.3 and had to install 5.5 (5.4 had the same issue). I do not know if b91ac374346ba206cfd568bb0ab830af6b205cfd alone can be back ported but may be 2c012a4ad1a2cd3fb5a0f9307b9d219f84eda1fa could be reverted as this is what happened in upstream anyway. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c30 --- Comment #30 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Would you recommend the user (me) build or install one of the newer Linux kernels? Do you have a specific version or tree that you would prefer I attempt to build or install? Please let me know. I may decide, some time today, to grab the latest stable Linux kernel and build it anyways, just for "fun," after my class today. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c31 --- Comment #31 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I ran the dd exercise booting into the OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 debug kernel. The dmesg output: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/dmesg_debug.txt Is the result of doing so and then running the dd command. Logs filled up pretty quick, etc. Hope this helps someone debug the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c34 --- Comment #34 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Would using a tumbleweed kernel give you good information? If so, please tell me what specific tumbleweed packages I need to install and what LEAP 15.2 packages I need to remove in order to test this theory. Also, would you have me grab the latest stable kernel and "yes | make oldconfig" and then see how that goes? I haven't built a kernel for OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 before, so I might need a tutorial on how to mkinitrd. Please notify me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c36 --- Comment #36 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/cgroup_disable/ Here are some vmstats for the stock OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 kernel. I started the dd command then realized I don't have a swap set, so I created one and added it. As soon as I ran swapon, it climbed to about 20MB or so. Still a bit better than the excessive swapping, but still, with 16GB of main RAM and nothing but Chrome running, that's excessive. Let me know if this is enough or you want me to install the latest kernel. I'm very eager to help. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c38 --- Comment #38 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I will install the kernel in the repository in the link. Please reply soon with what specific packages I need to install from it, and/or any other information, as I have only ever ran a different kernel than stock twice. "Back in my day" I would compile a static kernel for Slackware-Current. Now, however, I will need a slight bit of coaching. If this needs to come over direct email or text or whatever, please let me know. I will boot back into OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 and await your instructions while adding the repo. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c40 --- Comment #40 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/suse_stable/ I guess I didn't need help. So I got the new kernel installed and selected it at boot. Ran the same dd test. I left it running and the system never used swap. /proc/sys/vm/swappiness still = 60. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c44 --- Comment #44 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- This is a problem because with default kernel VM settings and a swap, a 16GB system using dd/gzip/rsync is heavily impacted. For instance, I can connect my external 1TB hard drive and (/home LUKS -> external 1TB LUKS) have 100MB or higher swap utilization. And that's the first command being run when the system is booted. Changing swappiness to 1 and VFS cache pressure to 200 doesn't eliminate swapping. System bogs very drastically, even with / being housed on a brand new 1TB Kingston SSD. I understand that maybe some of this is intrinsic to the older kernel plus the brand new hardware, but still, I've never seen previous versions of OpenSUSE dig so heavily into swap just backing up my stuff to my 1TB external, for instance. At some points the system lags so bad that the mouse slows and the system (for all intents and purposes) behaves like it's locked up. Getting to a virtual terminal is possible, so the system isn't locked, but it drags down all of X and XFCE with it. (Which is noteworthy: user is not using a "larger" WM/DE like KDE/Gnome/MATE.) So it's basically every disk I/O. For instance, I got a new MicroSD to put college stuff on (Windows vs Linux, so that my college documents are "portable" in case of a problem or in case I need to do work at school) and even putting maybe 1GB of documents on that 64GB MicroSD caused the system to dig into swap. So it's literally every Disk I/O. Running the original OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 kernel with the swappiness and cache pressure variables modified but without a swap alleviated half the issues, but it still caused (when the system reached the end of RAM and had to "move things around") the system to lag pretty bad. These issues seem to be completely gone with the bleeding edge kernel. Please consider this a serious issue. Maybe on this fast a system, a user would be willing to ignore it. But it affects OpenSUSE as a whole in that anyone who may be trying OpenSUSE but sees this behavior may just decide to burn a different distribution to DVD and install something else. Which may affect their perception of SUSE Enterprise Linux as a result. For me, I seriously had the thought to switch distributions. And I've been using OpenSUSE since at least 42.3. Of course, I didn't, but still.... I can't tell you what to do, I would just beg you to consider this a serious issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c47 --- Comment #47 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Ran the provided kernel. It seemed to do well. http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhock/ Although swappiness = 1 and vfs cache pressure = 200, it didn't seem to go beyond 6 GB of RAM usage. No swap seemed to get used. I was creating 1GB files full of zeros and I ran my rsync command to back up my files. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c48 --- Comment #48 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Robert Delahunt from comment #47)
Ran the provided kernel. It seemed to do well.
http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhock/
Although swappiness = 1 and vfs cache pressure = 200, it didn't seem to go beyond 6 GB of RAM usage. No swap seemed to get used. I was creating 1GB files full of zeros and I ran my rsync command to back up my files.
DISREGARD, I realized I had booted into Linux to copy my Music (13GB) to my external hard drive (USB-C enclosure for my NVME 512GB SSD). As I was doing so, I saw free RAM falling and then fired up vmstat again. Swap usage climbed (literally only used Yast and Chrome after a reboot). Check the second set of vmstat logs after the time delay. Sorry about that, I spoke too soon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c49 --- Comment #49 from Karl Mistelberger <karl.mistelberger@nefkom.net> --- (In reply to Robert Delahunt from comment #48)
DISREGARD, I realized I had booted into Linux to copy my Music (13GB) to my external hard drive (USB-C enclosure for my NVME 512GB SSD).
For reliably testing I always copied a large drive: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/538586-observing-excessive-swappi... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c54 --- Comment #54 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Sorry, today is crunch time for my graduate college courses. I should be able to get to it tomorrow, 9/30/20. I'll do my best to get to it ASAP. This laptop has had a RAM upgrade to 32GB, by the way, which you'll probably notice in my next vmstat post. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c56 --- Comment #56 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I do not see a release that is listed as _2 at the end, not from Yast Software or your direct link. Please advise. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c57 --- Comment #57 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Nevermind, I re-checked and saw the date stamp was 25 September, so I reinstalled (what should be) the new kernel. Here are your new vmstats: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhocko2/ I have 32GB of RAM now but still it dug into about 20 MB of swap, even with swappiness=1. Changing swappiness to 60 during this operation didn't seem to influence how much swap it was using, as it still hovered around 20MB or so. It does this both with a file operation (copying large files to an external 512GB SSD in an enclosure) or zeroizing this drive when finished (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=4K count=1024 etc) I noticed that running sync after the file copy operation dug into swap, i.e. after terminating the copy command, took a long while. Please advise. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c59 --- Comment #59 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Your most recent kernel with cgroup_disable=memory shows no swap usage when copying 16GB of data between drives. There was plenty of time to observe RAM get used up (monitoring free -m every second using a script) but it not resort to using swap. I double-checked and swappiness is set to 60 right now, so it would have had plenty of authority to swap out. vfs_cache_pressure=100 as well. Default system values. http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhocko3/ There are the vmstat files for your convenience. Please let me know what else I can do to help eradicate this bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c64 --- Comment #64 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- mount | grep cgroup : mpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct) systemctl cat "*.service" | grep -E "# /|Memory" # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-update-utmp.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/kbdsettings.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/auditd.service ## /etc/systemd/system/auditd.service and add network-online.target # /usr/lib/systemd/system/apparmor.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/noclear.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/lvm2-pvscan@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/user@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/kmod-static-nodes.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/detect-part-label-duplicates.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-ask-password-plymouth.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journald.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/rtkit-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/accounts-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/upower.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=true # /usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/smartd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-backlight@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/lvm2-monitor.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-remount-fs.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/cron.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/user@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/colord.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/ModemManager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/postfix.service # /run/systemd/generator/systemd-cryptsetup@cr\x2dauto\x2d1.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/mcelog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-logind.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d/NetworkManager-ovs.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/nscd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/../../dracut/modules.d/98dracut-systemd/dracut-shutdown.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/irqbalance.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/haveged.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-backlight@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/fwupd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/iscsi.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysctl.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysctl.service.d/50-kernel-uname_r.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-random-seed.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck-root.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/klog.service # /lib/systemd/system/klog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-modules-load.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service What are we investigating? By the way this is the stock kernel with cgroup_disable=memory boot parameter and no swap. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c66 --- Comment #66 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- With cgroup_memory=disable removed (not active) in boot parameters.... (By the way, I only started using that parameter during the process of this bug testing, so the initial comments I provided when I first began helping didn't have this...) This is stock kernel (i.e. opensuse-update) Linux desktop-01721d1.lan 5.3.18-lp152.44-default #1 SMP Wed Sep 30 18:51:43 UTC 2020 (914f31e) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux mount | grep cgroup > /tmp/cgroup.txt tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer) cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio) systemctl cat "*.service" | grep -E "# /|Memory" # /run/systemd/generator/systemd-cryptsetup@cr\x2dauto\x2d1.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/kbdsettings.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/user@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/../../dracut/modules.d/98dracut-systemd/dracut-shutdown.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journald.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service.d/NetworkManager-ovs.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/auditd.service ## /etc/systemd/system/auditd.service and add network-online.target # /usr/lib/systemd/system/smartd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/lvm2-pvscan@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/ModemManager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/upower.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=true # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-random-seed.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/user@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/postfix.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/mcelog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/apparmor.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck-root.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-modules-load.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/cron.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/rtkit-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/lvm2-monitor.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/irqbalance.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-ask-password-plymouth.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-update-utmp.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-journal-flush.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/kmod-static-nodes.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-logind.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/accounts-daemon.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/fwupd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-backlight@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/haveged.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-backlight@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/nscd.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/polkit.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd.service MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes # /usr/lib/systemd/system/detect-part-label-duplicates.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/noclear.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/udisks2.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/iscsi.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/klog.service # /lib/systemd/system/klog.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysctl.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-sysctl.service.d/50-kernel-uname_r.conf # /usr/lib/systemd/system/colord.service # /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-remount-fs.service find /sys/fs/cgroup/memory -type d /sys/fs/cgroup/memory -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c68 --- Comment #68 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- I set up one window doing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4K Another monitoring the output of df -h | grep cgroup every second Another monitoring directories under /sys/fs/cgroup/memory Another monitoring free -m As expected, swap use spiked at roughly 200 MB (consider: I have 32 GB RAM) At no time did cgroup get used or any directories populate under /sys/fs/cgroup/memory Understand that I have a long history with OpenSUSE memory issues. In previous versions, I would put entries in /etc/fstab that forcefully remounted all tmpfs mountpoints with a size=512M option to reduce their usage. In the past, it seemed that helped my system use swap less, though I never collected any scientific data that would empirically prove it helped. It just seemed that stock OpenSUSE (previous versions) dug into swap more readily, so forcing tmpfs entries to use less space seemed to help. I have long been suspicious of tmpfs reclaim anyways. But regardless, it seems nothing is using cgroups. I have also speculated that OpenSUSE needs a laptop-specific kernel which would alter this behavior. I mean, does anyone honestly need groups on a laptop? Anyways, one minor note is the kernel you made, mhocko, results in me not having a sound card. But yeah, back to the original topic, cgroups isn't using anything, but the machine dug into swap predictably, just like before. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c69 --- Comment #69 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- My experience with OpenSUSE is from v 42.3 through LEAP 15.2 (present). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c71 --- Comment #71 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- My latest test monitoring /sys/fs/cgroup/memory was with the OpenSUSE LEAP 15.2 stock (update) kernel (see uname -a in previous post). I can run it all again with your kernel, sure. But please reply real quick and tell me exactly what data you want, so that I can make sure I test things exactly as you want, with all the data you want. I don't have your kernel installed (I did a test where I reinstalled LEAP 15.2 without online updates and it seemed to fix most of the other weirdness I experienced in GTK/XFCE apps). So just please tell me everything you want to know. I'll install your latest kernel, reboot without the cgroups command line option, and then run all the tests you need, once I get back from the gym. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c73 --- Comment #73 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- uname -a Linux desktop-01721d1.lan 5.3.18-lp152.2.gb85b477-default #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 14:55:58 UTC 2020 (b85b477) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4K status=progress the find command found no directories in group other than memory swap use rose to 130 MB and then fluxuated between 80 and 100 MB. I am in Gnome Classic and literally the only things running are Dropbox and Chrome (and I'm only in one tab replying to this bug request). Your kernel is loaded. cgroup_disable=memory is NOT in the boot line (I removed it using advanced options prior to booting the kernel). How else may I help? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c75 --- Comment #75 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- In about five minutes: This is with vmstats with your kernel with cgroups enabled: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhocko4/ This is with vmstats with your kernel with cgroups disabled: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/vmstat/mhocko5/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c76 --- Comment #76 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Note that when I ran your kernel with cgroup memory disabled (mhocko5) and monitored the /sys/fs/cgroup/memory directory for more directories using find, it said /sys/fs/cgroup/memory didn't exist. This is different from the opensuse-update kernel (stock update) which still had the directory but it wasn't being used. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c77 --- Comment #77 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Both data sets are up. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c78 Abdulrhman Ied <Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com --- Comment #78 from Abdulrhman Ied <Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com> --- I probably have the same issue. I already opened a new bug (see bug#1177541), before I get pointed to this one. So here is again my issue, and I hope that would be helpful. "My system freezes for few seconds when there is high disk usage, like copying large files, or when opening a demanding chrome web pages (due to swaping?). It happens on Ext4, Btrfs and XFS, so file system doesn't matter. It happens on both Gnome and Xfce, so that also doesn't matter. Windows 10, Fedora and Ubuntu works almost fine on the same device, it's a problem with Leap 15.2 only. So I upgraded my system from Leap 15.2 to TW, and everything works almost fine now. I booted my device to TW but with Leap kernel (5.3.18-lp152.44-default), and the freezes happen again. So it seems to me that's a kernel issue. My search lead me to multiple cases with the same issue (different distros). See: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1212736/system-freezes-on-disk-i-o And: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1861359 It seems like newer kernel have this issue fixed, maybe version 5.5.6 (as stated in the link), and it seems that Ubuntu backported successfully a fix to kernel 5.4. This issue is very annoying, I hope openSUSE can backport a fix from upstream. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Start a disk demanding process, like copying large files Actual Results: Freezes and a laggy mouse cursor Expected Results: Smooth system Maybe it could be more obvious in devices with low ram, but Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 work perfectly on the same device." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c79 --- Comment #79 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- Can confirm and agree with Abdulrhman Ied. Depending on the day, there would be a 3-5 second lag when my system began digging into swap. I figured it was just the swap factor and/or my system. However, I noticed on the MHocko kernels (see comment history) that it happened far less often. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c80 --- Comment #80 from Abdulrhman Ied <Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com> --- (In reply to Robert Delahunt from comment #79)
Can confirm and agree with Abdulrhman Ied. Depending on the day, there would be a 3-5 second lag when my system began digging into swap. I figured it was just the swap factor and/or my system.
However, I noticed on the MHocko kernels (see comment history) that it happened far less often.
I tried the mentioned kernel (5.3.18-lp152.2.gb85b477-preempt) without any further configuration (I just installed the kernel and reboot to it), and the system still freezes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c81 --- Comment #81 from Robert Delahunt <radelahunt@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Abdulrhman Ied from comment #80)
(In reply to Robert Delahunt from comment #79)
Can confirm and agree with Abdulrhman Ied. Depending on the day, there would be a 3-5 second lag when my system began digging into swap. I figured it was just the swap factor and/or my system.
However, I noticed on the MHocko kernels (see comment history) that it happened far less often.
I tried the mentioned kernel (5.3.18-lp152.2.gb85b477-preempt) without any further configuration (I just installed the kernel and reboot to it), and the system still freezes.
Please provide system specifications. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c82 --- Comment #82 from Abdulrhman Ied <Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com> --- (In reply to Robert Delahunt from comment #81)
Please provide system specifications.
OS: openSUSE Leap 15.2 x86_64 Host: HP 15 Notebook PC 099011000000000000 Kernel: 5.3.18-lp152.44-default CPU: Intel Celeron N2840 (2) @ 2.582GHz GPU: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Se Memory: 1426MiB / 1870MiB I have installed the latest kernel from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/stable/standard and things are much improved now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1159882#c88 --- Comment #88 from Abdulrhman Ied <Abdulrhman.Ied@Gmail.com> --- Hello, After I had upgraded to openSUSE Leap 15.3, the issue got resolved. lsb_release -d Description: openSUSE Leap 15.3 uname -r 5.3.18-59.5-default Thank you very much for all of your efforts. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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