[Bug 609843] New: No Boot loader on Panel PC with CF disc
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c0 Summary: No Boot loader on Panel PC with CF disc Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.3 Version: Milestone 7 Platform: i586 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Bootloader AssignedTo: jsrain@novell.com ReportedBy: osl2008@googlemail.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 SUSE/3.5.9-0.1.1 Firefox/3.5.9 Fresh install of 11.3 m7 on Afolux AFL-08A panel PC using 8G CF card as hard disc (/dev/sda) gives no boot loader - just a 'missing operating system' message from the BIOS Tried yast bootloader from the rescue system (yes, I used mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc etc first) and various option such as re-install boot loader code, boot from MBR etc. - no change. It may be relevant that fdisk -l reports for all 3 partitions "Partition x does not end on cylinder boundary" - is this upsetting grub? Partitioning is as suggested by installer - sda1 = approx 512M swap, sda2 = approx 6G root, sda3 = approx 2G /home. Same machine worked OK for 11.3 ms6 (once bug 597299 was squashed) but this is a fresh CF card Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install on Afolux AFL-08A panel PC & 8G CF card 2. Wait for re-boot 3. read 'missing operating system' message Actual Results: 'missing operating system' Expected Results: system should start Grub -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c1 --- Comment #1 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-05-28 13:58:42 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=365510) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=365510) yast log file -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c2 Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |osl2008@googlemail.com --- Comment #2 from Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> 2010-05-31 11:25:18 UTC --- I cannot open the attachment, perhaps it is corrupted? Could you attach bootloader configuration files (/etc/grub.conf, /boot/grub/device.map, /boot/grub/menu.lst) so that we can review whether it was configured properly, as well as complete YaST logs (/var/log/YaST2/ directory)? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c3 --- Comment #3 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-05-31 12:19:56 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=365824) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=365824) bootloader configuration files (/etc/grub.conf, /boot/grub/device.map, /boot/grub/menu.lst) as requested -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c4 richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #365510|0 |1 is obsolete| | Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|osl2008@googlemail.com | --- Comment #4 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-05-31 12:26:42 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=365827) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=365827) yast log files - all of /var/log/YaST2 - 2nd attempt This (second attempt) archive opens fine here, if this try doesn't work I will attach it uncompressed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c5 --- Comment #5 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-05-31 12:34:41 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=365835) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=365835) output from fdisk -l /dev/sdx (CF card attached to desktop, not machine under test) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c6 Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsrain@novell.com AssignedTo|jsrain@novell.com |duwe@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> 2010-06-01 12:26:07 UTC --- The configuration files look good to me, I don't see any obvious reason why the system does not boot, as you put GRUB into MBR (which is not our suggested solution, but in general it should work). Torsten, could you, please, check whether I missed something? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c7 --- Comment #7 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-01 12:33:42 UTC --- I'm sure I left GRUB options as defaults the first time, then when it didn't boot I tried a few other settings. I will try a fresh install with a third CF card - I still have m6 on the fist one, that boots fine on same hardware. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c8 Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |osl2008@googlemail.com --- Comment #8 from Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> 2010-06-02 08:20:59 UTC --- Do I get this right: 'missing operating system' when installing into the MBR? Does it work when you upgrade the milestone 6 CF card to 7? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c9 richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|osl2008@googlemail.com | --- Comment #9 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-04 07:19:05 UTC --- Yes, that's what I get. Same with a third (fresh) CF card. The system worked fine with Milestone 6. Upgrading MS6 to MS7 using net CD, MS7 DVD image on a local FTP server and selecting 'Upgrade' in installation menu: 1. No partition offered to upgrade until I selected 'show all partitions' - then the (only) relevant one chosen. 2. Upgrade went OK until close to the end, Boot Loader installation reported failure "Error 11: Unrecognized device string" - see y2log, attached. 3. On reboot, stuck at "waiting for ... to appear" for root partition. Responding y to fall-back prompt appeared to start but then re-booted. 4. Tried reboot with serial console, cause seems to be something about a corrupted page table - see putty.log, attached. As mentioned before this unit worked quite nicely with MS6, all I've changed is the CF card and we're now back to the one that previously worked fine on MS6. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c10 --- Comment #10 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-04 07:34:37 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=366968) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=366968) YaST logs for m6 -> m7 upgrade -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c11 --- Comment #11 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-04 07:35:33 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=366969) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=366969) External serial console log of failed boot -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c12 Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |osl2008@googlemail.com --- Comment #12 from Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> 2010-06-04 08:27:16 UTC --- The log in previous comment#11 is to depict this problem? I see "[ 10.388029] Bad pagetable: 0009 [#5] SMP" -- that would not be a boot loader problem. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c13 richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|osl2008@googlemail.com | --- Comment #13 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-04 12:14:20 UTC --- Sorry - the failure that you quote above (c12) is bug 597299 biting again - I (wrongly) assumed that the patch had made it through to the current kernel. Blacklisting vt6655_stage" in /etc/modprobe.d/50-blacklist.conf makes it boot OK. So why does one CF card boot and the others not? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c14 Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|duwe@novell.com |jsrain@novell.com --- Comment #14 from Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> 2010-06-04 13:18:41 UTC --- Because the BIOS does not like the way it is partitioned, I guess. With grub in the MBR (usually discouraged, but ok for debugging),'missing operating system' is printed by the BIOS instead of jumping to the MBR. see http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/grub . I assume some piece of legacy software wants to see "cylinder boundaries" or exactly one active partition. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c15 --- Comment #15 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-04 14:25:03 UTC --- Is there a simple way to force this in the partitioning stage of installation? I'm not sure I fully understand what it's complaining about. Happy to try yet another installation! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c16 --- Comment #16 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-08 10:24:52 UTC --- Used fdisk to set up the CF partitions such that it doesn't report any issues with "cylinder boundaries" and tried again - now it boots just fine, using the same card that failed in comment#1. BTW - this time I left all boot loader settings as defaults, not using MBR. So this looks to me like a problem with the YaST partitioner? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c17 Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |duwe@novell.com --- Comment #17 from Torsten Duwe <duwe@novell.com> 2010-06-15 10:57:32 UTC --- Your BIOS seems to be particularly picky about the MBR contents, e.g. the primary partition locations. This is rather uncommon, and additionally, yast can not easily detect BIOSes like yours. I suggest to resolve this as WORKSFORME, unless there's a reliable way to detect such a BIOS. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c18 --- Comment #18 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-15 17:37:00 UTC --- I've no problem with WORKSFORME, if this issue really is rare. I've tried 11.3 M7 on 5 or 6 machines now, desktops, laptop, netbook and panel PC with only this one showing the bug, I saw nothing similar on the factory ML. At least the problem is now documented in bugzilla and - I hope - if it bites in the future people will see the workaround in comment#16. Time will tell how many machines are affected. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c19 --- Comment #19 from richard meek <osl2008@googlemail.com> 2010-06-16 07:05:44 UTC --- The issues reported above were with a Phoenix AwardBIOS v6.00PG with (an extension?) reporting as AFL BIOS v1.9 (c) 2008 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609843#c20 Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #20 from Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> 2010-06-21 07:51:28 UTC --- I'm closing this bug, it's not reasonable to have a blacklist of BIOSes (as the behavior may even be different in different versions of BIOS). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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