[Bug 1222755] New: Pipewire, missing pipewire group
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 Bug ID: 1222755 Summary: Pipewire, missing pipewire group Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: Other OS: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Sound Assignee: tiwai@suse.com Reporter: kailed@kailed.net QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Target Milestone: --- Found By: --- Blocker: --- pipewire group is needed for advanced/proaudio settings. Like audio group is needed for jack. Please add it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alarrosa@suse.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c1 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags| |needinfo?(kailed@kailed.net | |) CC| |kailed@kailed.net --- Comment #1 from Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com> --- What's the exact requirement here? Do you mean it's needed for establishing a higher RT priority? Or any other reason? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c2 Daniele Tombolini <kailed@kailed.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags|needinfo?(kailed@kailed.net | |) | --- Comment #2 from Daniele Tombolini <kailed@kailed.net> --- Yes, for RT priority as documented here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/Performance-tuning#... Better to have that group already available. AFAIK some distros have already added it. Thnaks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c3 --- Comment #3 from Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com> --- Isn't it better to use rtkit instead? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c4 --- Comment #4 from Daniele Tombolini <kailed@kailed.net> --- (In reply to Takashi Iwai from comment #3)
Isn't it better to use rtkit instead?
To be honest, I don't know for sure but it seems that everybody are using rt limits. At the end it's just a group, it doesn't hurt to have it :) Some more info: https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/3... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c5 Daniele Tombolini <kailed@kailed.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags| |needinfo?(tiwai@suse.com) CC| |tiwai@suse.com --- Comment #5 from Daniele Tombolini <kailed@kailed.net> --- I forgot to mention that there are also some problems with Yabridge and RTKIT. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222755#c6 Edgar Aichinger <edogawa@aon.at> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags|needinfo?(tiwai@suse.com) | CC| |edogawa@aon.at --- Comment #6 from Edgar Aichinger <edogawa@aon.at> --- The pipewire wiki recommends to use a group "pipewire" to raise RLIMITS just the same way it was done for JACK via group "audio" (or "realtime" on Debian systems, I think). As a Linux audio user, contributer and packager, I have to admit that I had no clear understanding how all this should be set up properly. So I might be the culprit for this whole discussion popping up. The whole thing started because of a warning message from Yabridge popping up when instantiating Windows Plugins in Reaper or Ardour. The warning looked like an error and confused people a lot, also because successfully running Windows VSTs highly depends on the Wine version being used, and we didn't always provide the "good" one. I'm not using Windows plugin binaries myself which makes it even harder to have a clear picture. Only recently, someone posted a comment in an Ardour forum thread that made clear that it's only important to have a group for raising privileges via PAM limits.conf.d snippet, possibly the group ownership of /dev/rtc0 and /dev/hpet, and add the user to that group, but as long as such a group exists, its name doesn't matter. As it is, I think we should simply leave things as they have always been, and use the audio group for low latency configuration. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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