[Bug 803826] New: KDE 4.10 install (KR410) lacks update notification
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c0 Summary: KDE 4.10 install (KR410) lacks update notification Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.3 Version: RC 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE4 Workspace AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: sven.burmeister@gmx.net QAContact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.26 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/26.0.1383.0 Safari/537.26 SUSE/26.0.1383.0 After switching from KR49 to KR410 available updates where not indicated in the systray anymore. I guess the same is true for the default 12.3 installation. The reason for this is that the apper plasmoid has to be installed and enabled for the systray. Hence I think the plasmoid should become a dependency of apper and enabled if installed. Reproducible: Always -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c1 --- Comment #1 from Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> 2013-02-14 19:26:26 UTC --- Adding to the above: The notify window that appears is of no use. a) the user might be AFK b) the user might focus on something else in the second it appears c) even if the user sees the window, what should he do? How does a user know how and where to install the updates? d) if one has to install the updates manually, why ship apper at all? What is the use case for an update notifier that only shows a notification for some seconds once a day? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c2 --- Comment #2 from Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.com> 2013-02-14 21:07:18 CET --- if you want the plasmoid, install it. The notifications don't go away, there is a counter in my panel that tells me I have 4 notifications - and one of them is about updates -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c3 --- Comment #3 from Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> 2013-02-14 22:05:35 UTC --- aha. and how does the user know that there is an important security update? by checking the "i" everytime it appears? I would be interested in an usability guy's opinion on that. And I wonder why any/most other desktops feature a dedicated notification icon in the systray although it can be hidden in some other icon. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c4 --- Comment #4 from Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> 2013-02-17 18:21:49 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2)
if you want the plasmoid, install it. The notifications don't go away, there is a counter in my panel that tells me I have 4 notifications - and one of them is about updates
I just got the notification about updates and the "i" disappears after 10-15 minutes after the notification was shown. And if you expand the systray you can see that the "i" shows 0 notifications. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c5 Michele Cherici <contezero@technet.it> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |contezero@technet.it --- Comment #5 from Michele Cherici <contezero@technet.it> 2013-04-17 09:05:22 UTC --- I think that from an usability point of view the 12.3 updates notifications system is really bad. Installing apper plasmoid is not a solution because it not give you any visual indication of the presence of updates, you have to rollover on the plasmoid icon to get infos (I don't know if the problem come from the plasmoid design or from the new default dark theme of opensuse 12.3). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803826#c6 Hrvoje Senjan <hrvoje.senjan@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED CC| |hrvoje.senjan@gmail.com Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #6 from Hrvoje Senjan <hrvoje.senjan@gmail.com> 2013-05-03 19:37:19 UTC --- With current Factory, apper is no longer split in two packages, and the icon is not always shown. @Michele, if you mark apper icon as autoshown, it will popup only when there are updates available. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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