[Bug 503071] New: Critical updates hidden behind update stack updates
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 Summary: Critical updates hidden behind update stack updates Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: libzypp AssignedTo: tgoettlicher@novell.com ReportedBy: msvec@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- When there is an update stack update available and at the same time also some critical updates, they are hidden behind the first one as it gets a priority over them. Like right now, there is an update stack update available and therefore the applet displays the orange star, however the fact that there are critical updates is completely ignored and the user is left with a false feeling of safety. This is a similar problem to zypper (see bug 503068). I'd suggest to behave the same if there are any critical updates and show that to the user that this is the fact (critical updates are available, but we update the update stack first). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c1 Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jkupec@novell.com, | |tgoettlicher@novell.com AssignedTo|tgoettlicher@novell.com |zypp-maintainers@forge.prov | |o.novell.com --- Comment #1 from Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> 2009-05-14 04:14:33 MDT --- I guess this report refers to kupdateapplet. As far as I know it is intended that only update stack updates are reported even if other updates are available in order to ensure the correct order of updating. zypper and packagekit don't tell kupdateapplet other updates. It's up to zypp/zypper/packagekit-zypp to decide the order updates are reported. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 User msvec@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c2 --- Comment #2 from Michal Svec <msvec@novell.com> 2009-06-11 06:17:10 MDT --- (In reply to comment #1)
I guess this report refers to kupdateapplet.
Yes.
As far as I know it is intended that only update stack updates are reported even if other updates are available in order to ensure the correct order of updating. zypper and packagekit don't tell kupdateapplet other updates.
Well, I believe at least the icon should reflect that there are security patches pending, even if the order of installation says softwaremgmt patch goes first. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|zypp-maintainers@forge.prov |tgoettlicher@novell.com |o.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c3 Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |zypp-maintainers@forge.prov | |o.novell.com --- Comment #3 from Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> 2009-10-15 05:03:58 MDT --- zypp-maintainers, is it possible to enable PackageKit to report critical updates hidden behind a pkg-mgr-update? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P4 - Low -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 User ma@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c4 Michael Andres <ma@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ma@novell.com Info Provider|zypp-maintainers@forge.prov |sreeves@novell.com |o.novell.com | --- Comment #4 from Michael Andres <ma@novell.com> 2009-10-15 08:19:40 MDT --- Scott should know this for sure. AFAIK the restriction is artificial. But I don't know if it's possible to report critical updates but prevent them from being selected before the update stack update. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 User sreeves@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c5 Scott Reeves <sreeves@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |sreeves@novell.com Info Provider|sreeves@novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Scott Reeves <sreeves@novell.com> 2009-10-20 10:59:02 MDT --- hmmm, I guess there are 2 approaches to take while still maintaining the policy of applying update stack patches first - which we definitely want to keep for obvious reasons. We could probably fairly easily change the PackageKit zypp backend to report the severity of the update stack patch as the maximum of the actual available patches. The second option of showing all the updates but preventing them from being selected and showing an explanation of why, is possible but would require some extensive, hard to maintain patching. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c6 Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #6 from Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@novell.com> 2010-12-10 10:34:09 UTC --- kupdateapplet will be replaced by kpackagekit. That's the reason for closing this bug report. kpackagekit is a community project that support a lot of awesome features. See: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KPackageKit?content=84745 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c7 Christian Boltz <suse-beta@cboltz.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |REOPENED CC| |suse-beta@cboltz.de Component|libzypp |libzypp Resolution|WONTFIX | AssignedTo|tgoettlicher@suse.com |zypp-maintainers@forge.prov | |o.novell.com Product|openSUSE 11.1 |openSUSE 12.1 Severity|Normal |Major --- Comment #7 from Christian Boltz <suse-beta@cboltz.de> 2012-02-25 13:36:54 CET --- (In reply to comment #6)
kupdateapplet will be replaced by kpackagekit.
Swapping horses doesn't make you a better rider ;-)
kpackagekit is a community project that support a lot of awesome features.
In the meantime we got another update applet[1] (apper) which has even more awesome features. Unfortunately issue in this bugreport is not one of them... In other words: This bug still exists in 12.1 - independent of the name of the update applet... [1] does someone have a list how the update applet in each openSUSE release was named? ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c8 --- Comment #8 from Thomas Göttlicher <tgoettlicher@suse.com> 2012-02-28 08:24:27 UTC --- A solution might be to enhance zypp-packagekit to send a Message() signal containing a notification that additional updates will be are available when the current ones have been installed. See: http://www.packagekit.org/gtk-doc/PkMessage.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c9 Michael Andres <ma@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEW Component|libzypp |Usability AssignedTo|zypp-maintainers@forge.prov |kde-maintainers@suse.de |o.novell.com | Summary|Critical updates hidden |[apper] Critical updates |behind update stack updates |hidden behind update stack | |updates --- Comment #9 from Michael Andres <ma@suse.com> 2012-02-28 10:38:41 CET --- This is IMO not a zypp issue at the first place. It's one of the few requirements, that a pending update stack update blocks all further updates. I'm a bit reluctant to change the backend to simply send the whole list of patches because I don't know which apps (beside apper) use this call. They all would need to be adapted in order to handle the update stack patches correctly. So I'd prefer a solution where the frontend would query for 'blocked' patches if it actually wants to display more detailed info. Passing it to the apper guys. Maybe something to be discussed on opensuse-softwaremgmt as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c10 Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |wstephenson@suse.com InfoProvider| |ma@suse.com --- Comment #10 from Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.com> 2012-05-03 09:35:17 UTC --- @Michael: what about Scott's suggestion to use the maximum severity of (stack,blocked) packages for the blocking stack update? Or is there no such overall severity value, but it is compiled by the client from the list of packages offered by the backend? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c11 Michael Andres <ma@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|ma@suse.com | --- Comment #11 from Michael Andres <ma@suse.com> 2012-05-03 12:09:20 CEST --- I think that's the easiest fix. The value would be compiled, so the update stack patch priority would raise as the priority of blocked pathes raises. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c12 Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |sven.burmeister@gmx.net InfoProvider| |wstephenson@suse.com --- Comment #12 from Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> 2012-09-15 14:32:36 UTC --- To be implemented or WONTFIX? In the end, if the user ignores the software stack update he is doing something wrong already. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503071#c13 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC| |jslaby@suse.com Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #13 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com> --- This version is out of maintenance, if you still see the problem, please reopen and move the bug to a more recent product. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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