http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c2 --- Comment #2 from Lee Matheson 2010-05-24 12:28:54 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=364105) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=364105) Xorg.0.log - boot with "nomodeset" boot code. Attached Xorg.0.log file when booting with "nomodeset" boot code. Special desktop effects partly work, with black background and taskbar and no icons on background. If background set to proper background, desktop effects stopped with error message and proper background with icons is restored (but not special desktop effect -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c4 --- Comment #4 from Lee Matheson 2010-05-25 21:12:29 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=364710) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=364710) Fedora-13 Xorg.0.log w/Radeon driver and working special desktop effects

Well, Radeon 9200 is becoming old and apparently nobody is testing the support for it any longer upstream. It's unlikely we'll see a fix for that ...

I confess to being a bit more hopeful :) I tested today's Fedora-13 release on this same PC, using their 32-bit KDE liveCD. Special desktop effects work ok on it, using the Radeon driver. Cube rotation, etc ... Running top, cpu load was low ( less than 10% during rotations). I have copied here the Fedora Xorg.0.log file. What else can I provide, so that we can see what they are doing different? I note Fedora13 have mesa-dri-driver-7.8.1-6, mesa-libGL-7.8.1-6, mesa-libGLU-7.8.1-6 rpms and xorg-x11-drivers-7.3.8.1-6 rpms. Their packaging is different from openSUSE, so I don't know what that means. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c6 --- Comment #6 from Lee Matheson 2010-05-25 22:49:52 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=364723) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=364723) Fedora change history and file lists of kernel, xorg, mesa ... Fedora-13 has 2.6.33.3-85 kernel. I'm not a packager, but I know some basic rpm commands. I knew where Fedora keep their src files I could look and check. Attached is a file with the change log of the Fedora applications you mention from Fedora-13 32-bit KDE LiveCD, which I think in some (all ? ) cases lists patches applied. I only included change log to mid/late last year. I can provide more if desired. .... And if someone can point me to the .src files, I can dig into this some more (I'll also see what I can find out on my own) in case the .diff files (?) are listed there. Use the sequence "====" to search through the attached file. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c8 --- Comment #8 from Lee Matheson 2010-05-26 06:13:49 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=364746) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=364746) File contents inside selected fedora13 src rpms OK, attached in one text file is the list of files inside selected fedora source files. I generated this using a command like: rpm -qip <fedora-package>.fc13.src.rpm -l And I then copied and pasted the output into the file. Included are: kernel-2.6.33.3-85.fc13.src.rpm libdrm-2.4.20-1.fc13.src.rpm mesa-7.8.1-6.fc13.src.rpm mesa-libGLw-6.5.1-8.fc12.src.rpm xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.0-1.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-4.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.15-5.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-3.20100305git6b8b157.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd-1.3.0-5.4.20100210git.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-server-1.8.0-12.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-16.fc13.src.rpm xorg-x11-utils-7.4-9.fc13.src.rpm What else can I provide to help? [unfortunately I am not a coder nor packager] -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c10 --- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch 2010-06-02 00:24:35 UTC --- (In reply to comment #9)

I can confirm this problem with the Radeon X1270 (RS690) using the Gnome Live CD 64 bit and a Radeon 7000 (R100) using the Gnome Live CD 64 bit. Both live CD's are 11.3 M7. Work-a-round is adding 'radeon.modeset=0' as startup parameter.

But that are completely different GPUs than the R2xx based GPU on Radeon 9200. BTW, with radeon.modeset=0 radeonhd will be used on GPUs, which are supported by that driver (RS690 in your case).

The radeonhd driver will appear for the Radeon X1270 ( RS690 ) but crash. By explictly assigning the radeon driver (remove the #) and restarting X the Radeon driver takes over and works correctly with 3D.

An alternative is to uninstall the xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd package.

On the R100 system adding the radeon.modeset=0 gives a working 3D Why is still the radeonhd driver used as default fallback?

That's not correct. radeonhd is still our default. radeon is the fallback, if the GPU is not supported by radeonhd driver or if KMS is active (and therefore radeonhd driver bailed out). KMS is not supported by radeonhd driver at the moment. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c12 --- Comment #12 from Lee Matheson 2010-07-11 13:50:36 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375133) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375133) Xorg.0.log file from Linux Mint 9 KDE where special desktop effects (3D) function. Xorg.0.log file from Linux Mint 9 KDE where special desktop effects (3D) function. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c14 --- Comment #14 from Lee Matheson 2010-07-11 13:55:14 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375135) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375135) dmesg output from Linux Mint9 KDE where special desktop effects (3D) function on Radeon-9200PRO dmesg output from Linux Mint9 KDE where special desktop effects (3D) function on Radeon-9200PRO -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c16 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |matthiasbehrens@web.de --- Comment #16 from Stefan Dirsch 2010-07-14 10:23:07 UTC --- *** Bug 622191 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622191 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c18 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |UPSTREAM --- Comment #18 from Stefan Dirsch 2010-08-15 12:23:03 UTC --- Unfortunately we have no ressources to work on radeon driver bugs. Hence the issue needs to be fixed upstream. You can report the issue via the ATI mailing list http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-driver-ati or X.Org's bugzilla https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ (product: xorg, component: Driver/Radeon) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256#c20 --- Comment #20 from Lee Matheson 2010-08-22 12:41:54 UTC --- (In reply to comment #18)

Unfortunately we have no ressources to work on radeon driver bugs. Hence the issue needs to be fixed upstream. You can report the issue via the ATI mailing list

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-driver-ati

or X.Org's bugzilla

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ (product: xorg, component: Driver/Radeon)

I managed to obtain 3D support (ie special desktop effects, cube rotation, etc .. ). I have been running for 1 hour thus far. It appears a bit slow, but that is subjective. I note there is a bug report on the 9200pro running slow with 3D on bugs.freedesktop.org but I do not know if that is the same. There is alot of good information on those links you provided (thankyou very much for those), albeit searching takes time. Based on what I read on various posts and bugs on those links, I discovered that specifying 'nomodeset' as a boot argument, together with the following edit to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-device.conf file, restores/fixes the broken 3D support (with KMS, I think - see below) : Section "Device" Identifier "Default Device" Driver "radeon" ## Required magic for radeon/radeonhd drivers; output name ## (here: "DVI-0") can be figured out via 'xrandr -q' #Option "monitor-DVI-0" "Default Monitor" #oldcpu added following 2 lines Option "BusType" "PCI" Option "AGPSize" "64" EndSection As noted, I successfully tested the above on a 32-bit openSUSE-11.3. While I note this bug report is closed, I will attach a copy of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file 'for prosperity' in case anyone is curious (in a subsequent post). While I obtained this solution from lists.freedesktop.org and bugs.freedesktop.org, I still have not determined if there is an appropriate bug raised in bugs.freedesktop.org as the threads with this information were massively confusing to myself. I also note that 'nomodeset' works but that specifying yast > System > /etc/sysconfig Editor > System > Kernel > NO_KMS_IN_INITRD and change it to "yes" DOES NOT work. This value must be No. Note the radeon 9200 pro hardware I am using is (from "lspci -vv") : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Club-3D BV Device 1052 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- TAbort- https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.