[Bug 215502] New: Backspace does not take you one page back.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 Summary: Backspace does not take you one page back. Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Beta 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Firefox AssignedTo: bnc-team-mozilla@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: thoenig@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Pressing backspace no longer takes you back by one page. I am not completely sure whether this change of behavior was intentionally; thus I'm filing this bug. Changing the value of the configuration key 'browser.backspace_action' from '1' (default) to '0' fixes the problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 rocallahan@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |federico@ximian.com Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #1 from rocallahan@novell.com 2006-10-26 16:34 MST ------- It was intentionally changed upstream, see bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=325541 apparently to be consistent with GNOME. Marking this INVALID, but CCing Federico just in case the GNOME situation was misconstrued by the upstream Mozilla developers. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #2 from thoenig@novell.com 2006-10-26 19:35 MST ------- Correct link to upstream bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325541 Robert, after reading the comments of the upstream bug I am somewhat sceptic whether this is issue is really resolved. It would be sensible to have a close look on how many people are going to file bugs against that decision. However, I have to admit the two other browsers installed on my system (konqueror, epiphany) both do not use backspace as key binding for 'back'. Thus, I respect the change and will simply count myself to a minority being used to have backspace as shortcut to 'back'. :-) (Leaving bug as RESOLVED INVALID) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #3 from federico@ximian.com 2006-10-27 08:49 MST ------- If Backspace means "go back in history" in Windows, we should do that. I'll be massively confused if I ever switch to Firefox (I use Epiphany, where Backspace sadly does nothing), but I can live with that. I just discovered that you can hit Shift-Space to go up. Who would have thought :) I guess this is just highly non-standard. Unix-heads are used to the backspace behavior from less(1), but maybe no one else in the world is. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 thoenig@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rocallahan@novell.com ------- Comment #4 from thoenig@novell.com 2006-10-27 12:23 MST ------- (In reply to comment #3)
If Backspace means "go back in history" in Windows, we should do that. I'll be massively confused if I ever switch to Firefox (I use Epiphany, where Backspace sadly does nothing), but I can live with that.
I just checked IE, and in fact it maps backspace to 'back'. And, so does Opera.
I just discovered that you can hit Shift-Space to go up. Who would have thought :)
I guess this is just highly non-standard. Unix-heads are used to the backspace behavior from less(1), but maybe no one else in the world is.
In the morning I walked up and down the floors of the Nuremberg office and asked Firefox users--yah, they were confused why I am asking things like "What shortcut do you use for 'back'", but they kindly answered all my questions. 1/3 were using backspace, 1/3 were using Alt-Left, 1/3 just push a mouse button. Of course, the backspace users disliked the change; the others just do not care. Now, the backspace behavior to scroll up with backspace is a widely used in other *nix applications than less(1). E.g. man(1) and mutt(1) use it, too. However, it looks to me as only console application are using backspace to scroll by default. I can not see a common standard key when looking at graphical applications, it's just looks similar to the whole Ctrl-q, Ctrl-w shortcut mess. Adding Robert back to CC as we lost him. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 stbinner@suse.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |simon.strandman@telia.com ------- Comment #5 from stbinner@suse.de 2006-10-29 08:47 MST ------- *** Bug 216124 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #6 from simon.strandman@telia.com 2006-10-29 10:36 MST ------- I don't think this bug is invalid. The patch should be reverted in the opensuse package. If mozilla wants to make the life of their users hard, sure, but opensuse doesn't have to follow. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #7 from suse-beta@cboltz.de 2006-10-29 16:18 MST ------- I'm not sure if I like backspace to go back. Just imagine you filled a form, (accidently) clicked somewhere outside the text fields and then press backspace - your form data will be lost. Not nice. Since this can be switched easily by the user (see initial comment), I'd recommend to add a note to the documentation (README or alike). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #9 from aj@novell.com 2006-10-30 09:32 MST ------- Since this is an upstream change with a new major version, I would suggest we go with it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #10 from thoenig@novell.com 2006-10-30 09:40 MST ------- Andreas, if we stick with it, I would like to have a comment in the release notes. There are probably other changes in the default keybindings I am not aware of. Robert, when looking at the upstream bug I still see a lot of people complaining. Can you tell us how likely it is that this change is going to be reverted upstream? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #11 from aj@novell.com 2006-10-30 12:19 MST ------- Timo, please open a separate bug against the release notes for this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #12 from thoenig@novell.com 2006-10-30 12:28 MST ------- Done: Bug #216366 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #13 from rocallahan@novell.com 2006-10-31 21:15 MST ------- To be honest, upstream isn't very interested in fighting over Linux UI details. If we strongly suggested they change it upstream, they probably would. I'll contact my Red Hat counterpart and see what he thinks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #14 from rocallahan@novell.com 2006-11-09 14:22 MST ------- We had a discussion and it seems the GNOME default behaviour should be for backspace in non-editing contexts to do nothing. How do people feel about that? It's a trivial pref change for Firefox. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215502 ------- Comment #15 from federico@ximian.com 2006-11-09 17:31 MST ------- (In reply to comment #14)
We had a discussion and it seems the GNOME default behaviour should be for backspace in non-editing contexts to do nothing. How do people feel about that? It's a trivial pref change for Firefox.
That's fine; it preserves the behavior from Epiphany. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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