[Bug 470620] New: Intel 945GM autodetection worse than default SAX2 behaviour
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 Summary: Intel 945GM autodetection worse than default SAX2 behaviour Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: Final Platform: x86 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: novell.com@cefn.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120121 Firefox/3.0.5 The OpenSUSE installer is impossible to use for a non-technical user installing on a Fujitsu P1610, since the autodetection of the video setup is so buggy that nothing can be seen either during the graphical installer, or after booting the system. Every attempt the installer makes to load X results in a series of vertical dotted purple lines and no visible graphics whatever, although a flash of tiled background and mouse shows that it is possible to load it in low graphics mode, the system decides not to do so, and attempts to be smart. After running a low-graphics installer, and booting in failsafe mode to a command prompt, I was able to prove how bad the smart defaults were for this platform by simply running sax2 -i which ignores them. After this I was perfectly able to load X windows, configure the device graphically, and run SUSE. The installer should have WAY better default behaviour than this, given the system is perfectly capable of loading, don't make users hunt through the world of forums just to stop your OS being too smart. I'll have to give up on OpenSUSE because of it's inferior video hardware support I'm afraid. After fixing the original issue with no video at all, I discovered that SUSE is unable to use an external display at its native resolution, following attempts to load through Sax and every other display configurator I can find. The default display configurator built into system configuration is wholly useless, provides no error feedback, and simply ignores any specification I provide, choosing to launch a cloned 1024x768 display when I hit 'Test' regardless of my specific requests for a Dual head 1280x768 LCD and 1440x900 VGA external display. This is a shame as I'm keen on the distro apart from these trivialities. It looks well put together, and just needs the same care as Ubuntu provides for hardware support. My system works out of the box with Ubuntu, with occasional poking from 915resolution to ensure the proper non-VESA modes are available. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install from 11.1 distribution 2. Observe crappy video and ill-thought-out default behaviour leading to no video 3. Reboot in failsafe mode 4. Run sax2 -i to bypass stupid defaults 5. Arrive at working XWindows on LCD 1280x768 desktop screen 6. Attempt to use graphical configurators to get external monitor to load as a dual head. 7. Give up on tools which provide no error feedback and ignore all your settings. Actual Results: Go back to Ubuntu. Expected Results: Loaded with defaults which work! Low res graphics should be a failover if the user doesn't click on the 'Next' button. Manual configuration of Video modes should be a backup when the stupid defaults have clearly not worked. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 User novell.com@cefn.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620#c1 --- Comment #1 from Cefn Hoile <novell.com@cefn.com> 2009-01-29 16:04:15 MST --- I think I may have found the ubuntu patch which fixes this issue and eliminates the problem for ubuntu users... http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12331077/08_945gm_quirk.diff ..and it may arise from OpenSuse believing that there's a live TV output. I could see this TV output as an option in the UI, but assumed it was spurious and not active as I don't even have a TV output on my laptop. Doesn't excuse the zero-error ignore-my-input behaviour of the configurator, but it may give you something to work on. I've gone back to Xubuntu for now, but ready to try OpenSUSE again if there's support for my video card. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 Pavol Rusnak <prusnak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |sndirsch@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Installation |X.Org AssignedTo|sndirsch@novell.com |bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com QAContact|jsrain@novell.com |xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge. | |provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 User markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620#c2 Mark Gray <markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.n | |et Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #2 from Mark Gray <markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net> 2009-02-18 08:36:17 MST --- Please attach the information requested on the webpage: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:X -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 User markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620#c3 Mark Gray <markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #3 from Mark Gray <markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net> 2009-02-18 08:38:24 MST --- Oops -- I misfiled this as closed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 Mark Gray <markgray+to-suse@puck.nac.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |novell.com@cefn.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470620#c4 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Info Provider|novell.com@cefn.com | Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-02-19 13:03:34 MST --- Obviously the reporter isn't really interested in helping to investigate this issue, which might finally result in a fix. ==> WONTFIX -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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