[Bug 395481] New: Control Center no longer lists ' open administrator settings
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 Summary: Control Center no longer lists 'open administrator settings Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: RC 1 Platform: x86 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Other AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: afonit@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Other when in the control center there are three categories to the left: filter, groups, common tasks. common tasks in 10.3 lists: add printer configure network cahnge password add user open administrator settings in 11 it lists: set preferred applications add printer I have not found anywhere citing if this was intentional - though for me the 'open administrator settings' will be missed. (I know I can click on yast though the 'open administrator settings' is quite language useful and accessible in its physical location. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |chrubis@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |mmeeks@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c1 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt AssignedTo|mmeeks@novell.com |bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com Component|Other |GNOME --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-06-02 09:32:13 MDT --- y2controlcenter-gnome issue... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c2 Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |christian.jaeger@rub.de --- Comment #2 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-06-09 13:16:55 MDT --- ..and I think a very important usability bug. How is a user coming from Windows to know how to access administrative settings? What the heck is 'YaST', he will think... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c3 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-06-09 17:12:38 MDT --- I agree; that's why I'm subscribed to this and some related reports. My comment must have been in the sequence of changing the component from YaST to GNOME or some other detail. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I suggest, as an quick fix, for the start menu to have two entries: some "Desktop Settings" and a "System Settings". (and remove the "Install Software".) Christian, if you feel this is that important, change the severity to "Critical". I'm pretty sure it won't be accepted for 11.0, but that's the only way you can get the release team to notice it. ;P -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c4 --- Comment #4 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-06-10 05:44:10 MDT --- Well, if you say so... (My original intention today was to promote it to a 'blocker'. ;p) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c5 Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Normal |Critical --- Comment #5 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-06-10 05:45:37 MDT --- Well, if you say so... (My original intention today was to promote it to a 'blocker'. ;p) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c6 --- Comment #6 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-06-10 05:54:04 MDT --- I seem to be stuttering. Anyway, I don't particularly like the idea of making both 'desktop settings' and 'system settings' directly accessible via the main menu. I see some wisdom in making only some basic settings (i.e. the gnome control center) accessible from the main menu - because otherwise a user would have to contemplate what it is he wants to change and which of the two icons he should click on to do that. Better have a sequence; many of the more common administrative tasks (like setting up a printer) can be performed within the gnome control center, too. But as it is now, with NO indication of administrative settings, I can imagine we'll see some reviewers claiming that openSUSE 11.0 just WON'T LET YOU DO some things because without previous SUSE-experience they won't find the application to do it with... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c7 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jpr@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-06-10 09:12:21 MDT --- JP, do you know who to bother about this? Seems like important stuff that could be easily fixed by touching some .desktop file... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User jpr@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c8 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com |sreeves@novell.com Severity|Critical |Normal --- Comment #8 from JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> 2008-06-11 14:41:02 MDT --- Its definitely not critical, Yast is in the main-menu for RC4 and also in the control center. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c9 --- Comment #9 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-06-20 15:45:51 MDT --- There we have it, the first blogger/reviewer realized: "Call me crazy, but if I’m a user looking to set up a new user, I’m probably not going to think, “well, I need to look for something called YaST”. Calling it Administrator Settings, as it was in 10.2 and 10.3 would work great. But it isn’t." http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/20/opensuse-110-at-first-glance-its-ok/ It would have been easy to fix, but no... :-| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 Scott Reeves <sreeves@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User christian.jaeger@rub.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c10 Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|GNOME |GNOME Product|openSUSE 11.0 |openSUSE 11.1 Target Milestone|--- |RC 2 --- Comment #10 from Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@rub.de> 2008-12-03 05:24:01 MST --- Please fix it in this release. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c11 --- Comment #11 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-12-04 13:15:09 MST --- Yeah, I'm surprised this isn't getting more attention since OpenSuse is meant to encompass new users to Linux and this seems like a very trivial thing. I'm full of stuff to do at the moment though; Christian, do you want to check where the config file is to change that "System" side bar. I think they are "*.desktop" files somewhere, so if you find+grep for e.g. "Install Software" (both kfind and the Gnome equivalent can do that) you should be able to easily locate them, and then attach to the report the yast entry, so we can get the release coordinators or someone with power to get the thing through. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481#c12 --- Comment #12 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-12-26 15:57:07 MST --- --- /usr/share/applications/YaST.desktop-old 2008-12-26 22:54:19.000000000 +0000 +++ /usr/share/applications/YaST.desktop 2008-12-26 22:54:59.000000000 +0000 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ X-SuSE-translate=true Type=Application Categories=Settings;System;SystemSetup;X-SuSE-Core-System;X-SuSE-ControlCenter-System; -Name=YaST +Name=System Settings Icon=yast GenericName=Administrator Settings Exec=/sbin/yast2 --- /usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop-old 2008-12-26 22:55:10.000000000 +0000 +++ /usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop 2008-12-26 22:55:25.000000000 +0000 @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Comment=Configure the desktop -Name=Control Center +Name=Desktop Settings GenericName=Personal Settings Icon=gnome-control-center Exec=gnome-control-center -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P3 - Medium |P2 - High -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395481 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Target Milestone|RC 2 |--- Version|RC 1 |Final -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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