http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771 zhu rensheng changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rszhu@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771#c2 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |tgoettlicher@novell.com Info Provider| |zypp-maintainers@forge.prov | |o.novell.com --- Comment #2 from Thomas Göttlicher 2009-11-12 07:25:29 MST --- yast2-qt-pkg uses zypp::PoolItem(pkg).status().isOrphaned() to figure out orphaned packages. Is this correct? How can I test whether libzypp provides a proper package list? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771 Raul Malea changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |raulmalea@yahoo.co.uk --- Comment #3 from Raul Malea 2009-11-15 21:02:41 UTC --- Same problem. Orphane package not show for any software installed and uninstalled. I have opensuse 11.2 final release. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771#c5 --- Comment #5 from Kornél Jahn 2009-11-17 20:40:29 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)

Orphanded - as the resolver understands it - is a package without any update candiadate. You may say it's 'unmaintained'.

It is NOT a leaf package in the dependency tree, a package not required by any other.

Ok, let's clarify it. I don't know how zypper internally works, but: There are packages which are explicitely installed by the user and those which are automatically installed as dependencies. This state should be stored ("manual" vs "auto"). *** As orphaned package I referred to an "auto" leaf package. A "manual" leaf would of course not be orphan. If one reads the feature request in openFATE, orphan is also used there this way (it is perhaps wrongly used but essentially it means this, if I understand it correctly). *** I am not an expert at all in this field, Debian's APT (& aptitude or apt-get autoremove) does this correctly, one should look at their solution. I say, automatically installed leaf packages should be removeable automatically. I think this is what most people want. What is your opinion? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551771#c7 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dmacvicar@novell.com, | |jkupec@novell.com, | |mls@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Ján Kupec 2009-11-30 14:20:00 UTC --- Kornél, there was a misunderstanding, which i explained in the fate #300758. The feature is not done yet. To your comment: (In reply to comment #5)

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Orphanded - as the resolver understands it - is a package without any update candiadate. You may say it's 'unmaintained'.

As orphaned package I referred to an "auto" leaf package. A "manual" leaf would of course not be orphan. If one reads the feature request in openFATE, orphan is also used there this way (it is perhaps wrongly used but essentially it means this, if I understand it correctly)

I think using 'orphan' is unfortunate and not correct here. See my comments in the FATE (and please reply there). But the main point here is that the 'auto-remove' feature is not done yet - it was marked as done by mistake.

I say, automatically installed leaf packages should be removeable automatically. I think this is what most people want. What is your opinion?

Fully agreed. I too look forward to the feature. Sorry for the noise caused by mistakingly closing it as done! I'll leave this report closed as fixed, since you wouldn't be filing it if the feature wasn't marked as done, right? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.