http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 --- Comment #2 from robert spitzenpfeil 2009-11-15 10:06:02 UTC --- Yes. Now I have and it looks just like kinternet. What a surprise. Now that KDE3 is officially not part of the distribution anymore why not name it kde4-kinternet ? But thanks for pointing me to it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 --- Comment #4 from robert spitzenpfeil 2009-11-15 10:24:13 UTC --- Argh! Then rename kinternet to kde3-kinternet and qinernet to kinternet ;-) Maybe next time q-internet will become r-internet ? And what happens at the end of the alphabet ? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c6 --- Comment #6 from robert spitzenpfeil 2009-11-19 10:01:05 UTC --- It simply confuses me ! Even after configuring my eth0/1 the way I like them, it still kept the "auto eth0" and "auto eth1" things in the tray menu - why ? And when I started clicking on them things shifted around and got even more confusing. Instead of adding a check-mark it shifted the connection to the top - why ? And when I told it to limit connection "eth0" to interface "eth0" it still only used eth1 .. and the DSL link I configured didn't show up in the list at all ... even though it connected. And I need both of eth0/eth1 up at the same time and not just one of them. I need something simple that doesn't try to be more intelligent than me and doesn't interfere with my wired network settings. There is a good reason for why network settings are the way they are and no friggin' piece of code should just run 'if-down' on devices which it thinks are not used. Networkmanager may be a good thing on laptops that need fancy wireless access for people who need to reed their emails even while sitting in a café while pissing off everybody else, but for a wired network... I will speak of it no more. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c7 Will Stephenson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Component|Network |KDE4 Workspace Info Provider|madworm_de.novell@spitzenpf | |eil.org | AssignedTo|wstephenson@novell.com |kde-maintainers@suse.de Summary|No suitable ( = simple ) |KNetworkManager does not |GUI replacement for |show DSL connections |kinternet - solely based on | |KDE4 :-( | Severity|Enhancement |Major --- Comment #7 from Will Stephenson 2009-12-03 10:40:34 UTC ---

Even after configuring my eth0/1 the way I like them, it still kept the "auto eth0" and "auto eth1" things in the tray menu - why ?

NetworkManager (the daemon, not knetworkmanager) creates these entries, and knetworkmanager has not yet got a facility to rename/edit/delete them. You can delete the configuration for them in YaST to get rid of them permanently. Another workaround is you can disable NM in YaST, edit system-wide Ethernet settings to your taste, reenable NM, go to /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ and edit the resulting connection files, changing the id field.

And when I started clicking on them things shifted around and got even more confusing. Instead of adding a check-mark it shifted the connection to the top - why ?

KDE Usability people, supported by GNOME nm-applet's research, told us users want to see active connections first.

And when I told it to limit connection "eth0" to interface "eth0" it still only used eth1

And the DSL link I configured didn't show up in the list at all ... even

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217015 , which I am testing the fix for atm though it connected. That's a new bug - I don't have any DSL hardware to test this though. Since you seem to be 'happy' with qinternet and triage assigned this to me I will hijack this report for this issue.

And I need both of eth0/eth1 up at the same time and not just one of them.

This should work, I have tested this.

I need something simple that doesn't try to be more intelligent than me and doesn't interfere with my wired network settings.

Configuring NM to leave wired alone is demonstrated here: http://peternixon.net/news/2009/06/05/configure-opensuse-networkmanager-to-i... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c9 --- Comment #9 from robert spitzenpfeil 2010-02-19 14:17:40 UTC --- Well I can't say it is in a state that would make me want to use it, or install it on my parent's computer. I've just installed the latest updates/patches and it still is quite strange. I've configured my DSL connection with knetworkmanager and it still doesn't show up in the systray. It connects, but I can't influence what it does. Compared to qinternet it sucks. Also the DSL connection is always labeled as "Last Used: Never". It is seriously confused. Still the layout of knetworkmanager (systray thing) confuses me. What is it supposed to tell me? Have a look at the attached screenshot (next post). Which is which? Available links? Active links? Where's the DSL connection? Either I'm suffering from Alzheimer's disease, or this program has serious issues with respect to user interaction. I will delete it forever. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c11 --- Comment #11 from Stephen Dunn 2010-02-19 22:05:54 UTC --- Hi Robert Does this relate to your bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204340 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c13 --- Comment #13 from Stephen Dunn 2010-08-13 10:31:00 UTC --- Hi Robert It's bug squashing weekend so I'm helping to tidy up bugs. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Squashing_KDE Is this bug, the one you originally reported, still a problem in 11.3? Thanks Steve -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555431#c15 Stephen Dunn changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED InfoProvider|madworm_de.novell@spitzenpf | |eil.org | Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #15 from Stephen Dunn 2011-05-15 08:47:29 UTC --- This is okay in 11.4. Closing... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.