https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c2 --- Comment #2 from Guido Berhörster 2014-01-13 10:28:40 UTC --- I'm not convinced it is needed and I don't know what should go in there. The situation is that for 12.1 and 12.2 the Xfce pattern included gnome-bluetooth, mostly for convenience because it could be used with Xfce. It was removed again in 12.3 because of excessive dependencies on GNOME components. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c4 Carlos Robinson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME | --- Comment #4 from Carlos Robinson 2014-01-13 11:30:31 UTC --- Whatever the reasons, the fact is that XFCE does not have any bluetooth functionality in 13.1, and there is no workaround. As simple as that. The reasons can be explained or not. 12.3 XFCE did have bluetooth functionality. Not its own, heavy, came from gnome, but it worked if you installed it. As on 13.1 this does not work, this is a new state of things. I have been unable to locate an alternative, desktop independent, even text mode. I was caught unawares when I upgraded my laptop, no idea this was the case. In my laptop, I have to reboot to Windows to use bt. The note could be as simple as this: ... XFCE can no longer use the gnome bluetooth stack, thus there is no bluetooth functionality since 13.1. There is no known alternative yet. ... If the above is not true, well, I opened bugzillas and queries on each subject. If it is possible to make it work, anyone can say so and explain. I do not know if XFCE has development efforts to create its own functionality or not. If they exist, that info should be added to the note. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c6 --- Comment #6 from Guido Berhörster 2014-01-13 16:13:38 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)

If the above is not true, well, I opened bugzillas and queries on each subject. If it is possible to make it work, anyone can say so and explain. I do not know if XFCE has development efforts to create its own functionality or not. If they exist, that info should be added to the note.

There is no Xfce or DE-independent effort of creating a Bluez-based GUI that I'm aware of, and certainly nothing packaged in openSUSE. You can still do everything from the commandline though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c8 --- Comment #8 from Guido Berhörster 2014-01-13 22:48:20 UTC --- (In reply to comment #7)

(In reply to comment #6)

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There is no Xfce or DE-independent effort of creating a Bluez-based GUI that I'm aware of, and certainly nothing packaged in openSUSE.

So I thought.

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You can still do everything from the commandline though.

No, impossible. I have been trying for days, with help from others in the mail list, and it is impossible.

There is blueman, but this requires installing the deprecated 'hal' from the kde3 repo. I have tried without that and it is incapable of working.

Blueman is a long dead project and doesn't work with Bluez5.

I have tried several tools from the bluez toolkit, and it has been impossible, or nobody knows how. The package contains no documentation or howto, the FAQ on their home page is just vestigial, empty of content.

If you know of a commandline utility (set) that allows pairing and transferring of files, and how to do it, please contribute to that mail list thread.

Nobody has pointed us yet to a webpage that explains how to do these things.

Pairing can be done with bluetoothctl which is part of the bluez package and file transfer e.g. via obexftp or obexfs. While bluetoothctl lacks some official documentation its use was even discussed in the Bluez 5 thread on the mailing list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2013-10/msg00061.html I mean that's basic stuff you can find out with a simple google search. To get back on topic, if you want something in the release notes I suggest you post a draft here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c10 Karl Eichwalder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |carlos.e.r@opensuse.org Severity|Major |Normal --- Comment #10 from Karl Eichwalder 2014-01-15 13:35:42 CET --- At least, please add the info provided by Guido to the proposed RN draft. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858405#c12 Karl Eichwalder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #12 from Karl Eichwalder 2014-02-11 16:54:51 CET --- I'm not familiar with BT and according to previous statements, an entry in the RN is not needed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.