[Bug 346533] New: wifi not possible with built-in card after kernel update
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 Summary: wifi not possible with built-in card after kernel update Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: 32bit OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Kernel AssignedTo: kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: kssingvo@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Development My private laptop is a HP Compaq nx8220. It has a built-in wireless card, which uses the bcm43xx module. I could use this card till kernel update last night. Now, after loading of the module bcm43xx that LED gets no longer activate, which shows activation of the wireless chip. Even playing around with ifconfig, ifup-dhcp, ifup, iwconfig, network-manager doesn't activate the wlan. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User jeffm@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c1 Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jeffm@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |kssingvo@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@novell.com> 2008-01-02 14:20:28 MST --- Can you provide the output of 'hwinfo' ? Also, what is the kernel version you're using now, and what was the previous version? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User kssingvo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c2 Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|kssingvo@novell.com | --- Comment #2 from Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@novell.com> 2008-01-07 05:52:28 MST --- Oh. Sorry. :-( I found the problem and fixed it in the meantime. The module bcm43xx requires now additional firmware files to be loaded. They have to be extracted from windows drivers by "bcm43xx-fwcutter" tool and stored into /lib/firmware directory. This was previously not necessary for my version of this card. The maintainace process for kernel process seems not to be working properly here. For sake of completeness: - the kernel I'm using now, is: 2.6.22.13 - the kernel where it surely worked out-of-the-box before, was: 2.6.22.9 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User kssingvo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c3 --- Comment #3 from Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@novell.com> 2008-01-07 05:58:21 MST --- Created an attachment (id=189550) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=189550) hwinfo (complete) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User jbenc@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c5 Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #5 from Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> 2008-01-07 11:27:29 MST --- That's really strange. The firmware was definitely needed before the update - the BCM 43xx cards doesn't work without a firmware. We don't ship bcm43xx firmware because of licensing issues. You (or somebody else) had to install the firmware before, either using bcm43xx-fwcutter or by copying the files from another system. If the firmware files couldn't be found after the update, there has to be something another involved. One thing I can think of is a change of firmware files names but that didn't happen between the mentioned versions. Overall, there's no change in bcm43xx and only irrelevant changes in ieee80211 between those versions. I also cannot find any change in the firmware loading infrastructure at the kernel side. Another possibility would be a change in the location of firmware files. That's a responsibility of udev - did you update udev along with the kernel? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User kssingvo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c6 --- Comment #6 from Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@novell.com> 2008-01-07 11:34:26 MST --- Yes, it sounds strange. But I'm sure my device could be activated after I did a fresh new installation of openSUSE 10.3, and this got lost. I'm only updating official patches on this machine, as it is a important for me to have a stable system there. There was no official udev update in the past, so I did not. Please remember that some special devices of the bcm43xx family are running even without the firmware. iBook developers did this make possible, and AFAIK I'm having one those chips in my laptop too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User jbenc@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c7 Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |kssingvo@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> 2008-01-07 12:00:12 MST --- (In reply to comment #6 from Klaus Singvogel)
Please remember that some special devices of the bcm43xx family are running even without the firmware. iBook developers did this make possible, and AFAIK I'm having one those chips in my laptop too.
How that could be possible? Every 802.11 card needs a firmware. There's no way around that. Some older cards had the firmware permanently stored in a (EP)ROM but I don't know about any such bcm43xx card. And even if such card existed, the driver simply doesn't support it. The driver _always_ ask the user space for the firmware. It did it before the update and it does that now. Please do a fresh installation of 10.3 without installing the firmware and give me a shell access, I'm really interested in that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User kssingvo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c8 --- Comment #8 from Klaus Singvogel <kssingvo@novell.com> 2008-01-08 04:17:01 MST --- The internal HD is to small to have a second openSUSE system aside. I'm not willing to reinstall this machine, nor playing around (testing) of older kernels. It's a production machine for me, and my private one. The possibility of a loss of data (even speaking of configuration data) is no choice. I don't know why the LED was able to light. But this means that the device is ready to run, and only iwconfig/ifup/networkmanager are necessary to have a valid working network then. But if you insist that this card is not running without loading a firmware ever, and as I'm unable to prove you the opposite, please close this bug. I'm not willing to reinstall openSUSE 10.3, nor want to install an old kernel. No playing. Sorry. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533 User jbenc@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346533#c9 Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|kssingvo@novell.com | Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #9 from Jiri Benc <jbenc@novell.com> 2008-01-09 03:56:09 MST --- LEDs usually have a little to do with the rest of the hardware. They can be lit independently of the state of the card. For lighting them you indeed don't need any firmware but that doesn't mean the card is working. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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