https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c2 Raymond Wooninck changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tittiatcoke@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Raymond Wooninck 2012-03-23 18:01:53 UTC --- Today I updated the kernel from Factory (including some other packages). I booted and had the same issue that the iwlwifi firmware could not be found. After some tests, this bug is related to the move from / to /usr. As soon as I created a symlink from /lib/firmware to /usr/lib/firmware, everything worked as expected. Raymond -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c4 Luca Beltrame changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |einar@heavensinferno.net --- Comment #4 from Luca Beltrame 2012-03-24 13:38:39 UTC --- This also affects KMS drivers: inability to load firmware means no GPU acceleration. Unlike Raymond, setting a symlink in /usr/lib to /lib/firmware (cd /usr/lib; ln -s /lib/firmware .) had no effect on the loading of firmware. I had to revert to the earlier udev to get it working. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c6 --- Comment #6 from Luca Beltrame 2012-03-26 07:36:43 UTC --- I got hold of working udev RPMs so I will try testing this. Aside enabling debugging in udev, is there anything else I need to do? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c8 --- Comment #8 from Luca Beltrame 2012-03-26 08:50:07 UTC --- According to my and Raymond's findings, we don't think it's an udev issue at all. Firmware is now handled by kmod / libkmod rather than udev (and that explains why I couldn't find any meaningful error when looking at the logs). And kmod looks for firmware in /usr/lib rather than /lib, which means that KMS drivers loaded in the initrd will not find firwmare (because /usr/lib/firmware is not copied there: as a matter of fact, forcing a copy there solves the issue for me), and regular drivers will fail unless there's a symlink in /usr/lib/firmware that points to /lib/firmware. So this bug should be reassigned to kmod or mkinitrd. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c10 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rmilasan@suse.com AssignedTo|rmilasan@suse.com |jengelh@medozas.de --- Comment #10 from Robert Milasan 2012-03-26 08:59:11 UTC --- @Jan: please check it, thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c12 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #12 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-04 06:45:04 UTC --- You should try again, it should have been fixed in the latest update. The problem was or seems it was the missing /usr/lib/firmware link. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c14 --- Comment #14 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-04 07:10:36 UTC --- Well you can enable debuggin in udev in /etc/udev/udev.conf change udev_log=err to udev_log=debug, then just reboot. Take /var/log/syslog from your system and attach it here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c15 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|jslaby@suse.com | --- Comment #15 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 12:55:22 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=493479) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=493479) part of syslog (In reply to comment #14)

Well you can enable debuggin in udev in /etc/udev/udev.conf change udev_log=err to udev_log=debug, then just reboot. Take /var/log/syslog from your system and attach it here.

The sequence is: * I plug the device * kernel sends an uevent (FIRMWARE/add), timeout=60 * udev sleeps 60s * udev wakes up, forks firmware loader (there is no FW dir at this time) Log extracted: 45:34 kernel: dvb-usb: found a 'Hauppauge Nova-TD Stick (52009)' in cold state, will try to load a firmware 45:34 udevd: seq 2787 queued, 'add' 'firmware' 46:35 kernel: dvb-usb: did not find the firmware file. (dvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw) 46:35 udevd: seq 2787 forked new worker [24357] 46:35 udevd[24357]: seq 2787 running 46:35 udevd[24357]: IMPORT builtin 'firmware' /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:107 46:35 udevd[24357]: error: can not open '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb1/1-6/firmware/1-6/loading' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c17 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Base:System/udev: Bug |Base:System/udev: defunct |iwlwifi firmware load error |firmware loading --- Comment #17 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 13:20:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #16)

I have that TV tunner and it does not need firmware,

No you do not. This device definitely needs firmware. 1) The driver requests that as you can see. 2) The device doesn't work unless it is loaded.

we are talk about iwlwifi not about your DVB-T usb tunner.

The bug is primarily about defunct firmware loading. This is the same bug unless the original reporter confirms it works for him now. I doubt so. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c18 --- Comment #18 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-04 13:26:40 UTC --- OK, do you have the "firmware" for the device? Just please output simply "ls -la /lib/firmware/{dvb-t-firmware-files}" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c20 --- Comment #20 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 13:31:06 UTC --- (In reply to comment #19)

What it is doing the minute?

To add, when I run udevadm monitor I see a kernel uevent for firmware/add then 1 minute gap and even then a udev uevent for firmware/add appears. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c22 --- Comment #22 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 13:33:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #21)

What kernel are you running?

Today's -next. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c24 --- Comment #24 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 14:17:54 UTC --- (In reply to comment #23)

Give me some time, I have the DVB-T at home, exactly the same as you, will try to reproduce it myself. I can't say anything until I see it also.

OK... Some more info that might help: 1) it's not stick-specific. It happens with two more dvb-t sticks. 2) but the _first_ plug-in works OK on all of them. If I remove it and plug it back, it: * times out, or * after 30s some udev worker is killed and firmware loaded -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c26 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|jslaby@suse.com | --- Comment #26 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-04 14:29:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #25)

Jiri, please enable udev debugging (/etc/udev/udev.conf -> udev_log="debug"), reboot (or reload udev), remove the stick, plug it again, wait a ~minute and then attach /var/log/messages here. Hopefully it will show us something. Thanks.

Is this something different to attachment 493479? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c28 Jan Engelhardt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jengelh@inai.de |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com --- Comment #28 from Jan Engelhardt 2012-06-04 16:34:40 CEST --- I am not maintainer of udev. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c30 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #30 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-07 07:31:00 UTC --- Jiri, I've tested udev 181 and 182 (openSUSE Factory) using the DVB-T. It worked and it works, but for my first test I did notices in udev 182 that the second time you plug in the usb device there is a certain delay, not bad, but weird. Also was talking to Petr Uzel and he was thinking that the best idea would be to do an strace to see whats going on. But first, before doing that I would like to ask you to install udev which comes with the TIMEOUT handling patch from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rmilasan:/branches:/Base:/Sy... After I applied this patch on udev 182 the second time I pluged the DVB-T there was no delay and killed workers. Note: this is not a udev issue but a kernel issue and seems there are modules which have the old fashion hacks. You can read more about it in the link which I posted in comment 21. Please test this udev if it's not too much to ask. Also maybe an strace would help. Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c32 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|jslaby@suse.com | --- Comment #32 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-09 13:33:56 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=494251) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=494251) strace of udevd while the device was plugged in (In reply to comment #30)

Also was talking to Petr Uzel and he was thinking that the best idea would be to do an strace to see whats going on.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c34 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #34 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-10 19:12:20 UTC --- Sorry for rushing into it, but first could you tell me where is that firmware located on your computer? Just ls -la "firmware" and second, could you please re-run the same exact test using the DVB-T. This are not very concrete tests when you always test with something else. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c36 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #36 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-11 06:46:45 UTC --- Well we can procced with the pico stick, but also would like to see the strace for the DVB-T if you don't mind. Also my idea is now out of the question, because initially was thinking that the firmware might be in a weird location, it turns out is not. Please attach the output of strace when pluggin in the DVB-T and enable debuggin in udev and plug in the pico stick and of course attach the output to the bug. Enable debugging: udevadm control --log-priority=debug and then plug in the pico stick. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c38 --- Comment #38 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-12 07:47:48 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=494428) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=494428) strace when plugging pico stikc in with kernel 3.4.0 (In reply to comment #36)

Well we can procced with the pico stick, but also would like to see the strace for the DVB-T if you don't mind.

Pico stick is a DVB-T device.

Please attach the output of strace when pluggin in the DVB-T

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c39 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|jslaby@suse.com | --- Comment #39 from Jiri Slaby 2012-06-12 07:59:56 UTC --- I cannot upload syslog here, the submit button is defunct (I don't get this). But anyway, with udev from your repo, it works now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c41 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #41 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-12 08:16:13 UTC --- So it works with the udev from the repo and kernel 3.4.0 or with your kernel -next or both? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c43 Robert Milasan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |jslaby@suse.com --- Comment #43 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-12 08:23:37 UTC --- But previously you said it doesn't. Did you change something? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c45 --- Comment #45 from Robert Milasan 2012-06-12 09:20:16 UTC --- OK, the patch has been submitted to Factory, closing this bug as fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753734#c47 --- Comment #47 from Bernhard Wiedemann 2012-06-12 12:00:08 CEST --- This is an autogenerated message for OBS integration: This bug (753734) was mentioned in https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/124661 Factory / udev https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/124662 Factory / udev -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.