https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c1 Stefan Schubert changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|schubi@novell.com |visnov@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Stefan Schubert 2007-11-05 09:02:30 MST --- There is no freshens definition in the patch: <atom> <name>openmotif22-libs</name> <arch>i586</arch> <version>2.2.4</version><release>84.1</release> <provides> <dep name='openmotif22-libs' op='==' version='2.2.4' release='84.1' kind="atom" /> </provides> <requires> <dep name='openmotif22-libs' op='&gt;=' version='2.2.4' release='84.1' kind="package" /> </requires> </atom> Stano, who has created this patch ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c2 Ruediger Oertel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |visnov@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Ruediger Oertel 2007-11-05 10:15:09 MST --- the patchinfo engine. it's a pretty normal case: CATEGORY: optional UpdateOnlyInstalled: false by definition the solver is to install the package if the patch is selected, but the solver should not pull in this patch automatically, since it's marked as "optional". Yes, there is no "Freshens" since the patch is meant to install a package that was not present in the Product before. Where exactly is the problem ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c4 --- Comment #4 from Harald Mueller-Ney 2007-11-05 10:35:53 MST --- Calculation of "needed" seems to be odd. "optional" mean really optional, it is not needed but it is applicable to for the system. Maybe "needed" is (mis)used to make it appear at all? In future we will not release new package this way anymore. Customers need to install new packages via "installers" like yast sw_single or zen-installer etc. But we still might have optional updates, you only want to install under certain conditions. I do not want to "drop" optional completely without further investigation . -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c6 Ben Kevan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ben.kevan@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from Ben Kevan 2007-11-06 17:23:55 MST --- I will add to this.. Shows that openmotif22-libs stuff isn't installed. bkevan@LSSUSE01007250:~> rpm -qa | grep openmotif bkevan@LSSUSE01007250:~> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- bkevan@LSSUSE01007250:~> sudo zypper up -t patch -r "openSUSE 10.3 Updates" root's password: Repository 'openSUSE 10.3 Updates' not found. bkevan@LSSUSE01007250:~> sudo zypper up -t patch -r "openSUSE_10.3_Updates" * Reading repository 'openSUSE 10.3 Updates' cache * Reading installed packages [100%] The following NEW package is going to be installed: openmotif22-libs The following NEW patch is going to be installed: openmotif22-libs Overall download size: 1.2 M. After the operation, additional 2.7 M will be used. Continue? [yes/no]: Why does it want to install when it's not required and is not already installed? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c8 --- Comment #8 from Stanislav Visnovsky 2007-11-09 02:33:59 MST --- The problem is that this patch is not needed! The libraries mentioned in the patch are not installed on the system and it does not make sense to install them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c10 Stefan Schubert changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|schubi@novell.com | --- Comment #10 from Stefan Schubert 2007-11-09 03:35:16 MST --- Without the freshen it is INCOMPLETE: -------------------------------- 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverQueue.cc(processOnce):228 =====> 1st pass: [[Establish: U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, Explicit !]] 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):101 QueueItemEstablish::process([Establish: U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, Explicit !]) 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):120 simple establish of U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586 with 0 freshens 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverInfo.cc(ResolverInfo):210 ResolverInfo<ESTABLISHING> atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3] 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(addInfo):1206 ResolverContext[0xb8a6f08]::addInfo(ResolverInfo<ESTABLISHING> atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3]>>Establishing atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3]<<, Trigger: none 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(addInfo):1206 ) 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(isPresent):699 ResolverContext::itemIsPresent(U__s_[S7:0][package]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586) N 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(requirementIsMet):1581 ResolverContext::requirementIsMet([package] (namedcap) openmotif22-libs >= 2.2.4-84.1) N 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):243 Atom/Patch/Installed/Establishing U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586 has unfulfilled requirement [package] (namedcap) openmotif22-libs >= 2.2.4-84.1 -> incomplete 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(incomplete):666 ResolverContext[0xb8a6f08]::incomplete(U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586):U__s_ 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(setStatus):207 [0xb8a6f08]setStatus(U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, UI_s_) 2007-11-09 11:20:14 <999> waerden(7015) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(setStatus):211 MARK ---------------------------------- WITH the FRESHENS <atom> <name>openmotif22-libs</name> <arch>i586</arch> <version>2.2.4</version><release>84.1</release> <provides> <dep name='openmotif22-libs' op='==' version='2.2.4' release='84.1' kind="atom" /> </provides> <requires> <dep name='openmotif22-libs' op='&gt;=' version='2.2.4' release='84.1' kind="package" /> </requires> <freshens> <dep name='openmotif22-libs' kind="package" /> </freshens> </atom> it is unneeded: ----------------------------------- 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverQueue.cc(processOnce):228 =====> 1st pass: [[Establish: U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, Explicit !]] 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):101 QueueItemEstablish::process([Establish: U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, Explicit !]) 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):120 simple establish of U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586 with 1 freshens 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverInfo.cc(ResolverInfo):210 ResolverInfo<ESTABLISHING> atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3] 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(addInfo):1206 ResolverContext[0xb8a6f80]::addInfo(ResolverInfo<ESTABLISHING> atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3]>>Establishing atom:openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586[3]<<, Trigger: none 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(addInfo):1206 ) 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(isPresent):699 ResolverContext::itemIsPresent(U__s_[S4:0][package]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.i586) N 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(isPresent):699 ResolverContext::itemIsPresent(U__s_[S7:0][package]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586) N 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(requirementIsMet):1581 ResolverContext::requirementIsMet([package] (namedcap) openmotif22-libs) N 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] QueueItemEstablish.cc(process):147 U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586 freshens nothing -> unneeded 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(unneeded):613 ResolverContext[0xb8a6f80]::unneeded(U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586) 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(setStatus):207 [0xb8a6f80]setStatus(U__s_[S7:0][atom]openmotif22-libs-2.2.4-84.1.i586, UU_s_) 2007-11-09 11:23:33 <999> waerden(7054) [zypp] ResolverContext.cc(setStatus):211 MARK ------------------------------------- So put the freshens to the atom. concerning comment #2

by definition the solver is to install the package if the patch is selected, but the solver should not pull in this patch automatically, since it's marked as "optional".

The solver does not know anything about "optional".

Yes, there is no "Freshens" since the patch is meant to install a package that was not present in the Product before.

The question is "Is a package with an old version already installed ?". This will be triggered by freshens. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339125#c12 --- Comment #12 from Jan-Simon Möller 2007-12-03 12:56:48 MST --- Created an attachment (id=185677) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=185677) picture -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.