https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c1 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |lslezak@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Thomas Göttlicher 2009-01-16 02:01:37 MST --- I guess this feature request is about the values shown by 'tune/hwinfo/src/hwinfo_proposal.ycp'. Reassigning to yast2-tune maintainer. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User bluedzins@wp.pl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c4 Maciej Pilichowski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|bluedzins@wp.pl | --- Comment #4 from Maciej Pilichowski 2009-01-16 04:31:59 MST --- Ladislav, yes I have, but as I said -- please show real memory, i.e. total. This section shows hardware information, not free resources. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User bluedzins@wp.pl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c6 --- Comment #6 from Maciej Pilichowski 2009-01-16 04:52:25 MST --- I really know that. Maybe I rephrase -- please show the same memory amount BIOS shows. Those sections are the same -- hardware information, so it should be no difference. If you prefer showing available memory for the OS purposes, then please relabel that line accordingly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User bluedzins@wp.pl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c8 --- Comment #8 from Maciej Pilichowski 2009-01-16 06:47:44 MST --- So, when I get out my 4GB I will get -256MB of main memory? When you are about to partition the disk should the disk show the total capacity, or "main capacity excluding the filesystem components". The same logic. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User ptesarik@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c10 Petr Tesařík changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ptesarik@novell.com --- Comment #10 from Petr Tesařík 2009-01-16 07:11:53 MST --- (In reply to comment #8)

When you are about to partition the disk should the disk show the total capacity, or "main capacity excluding the filesystem components". The same logic.

But, should the disk capacity include hidden capacity which is used by the disk firmware to replicate bad sectors? How about that? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c12 --- Comment #12 from Stefan Hundhammer 2009-01-16 09:12:07 MST --- But you want honest values, not fakes, right? AFAIK the value you see is the value reported by the BIOS. Sure, we could do some tweaking there and "beautify" some values: For PC hardware, it is very unlikely that you have odd values like 3.694 GB. If you have something like that, you most likely have 2 2GB modules installed or 4 1GB modules. So we could silently round up the odd value reported by the BIOS (which is what can really be addressed, possibly taking video RAM and AGP transfer areas etc. into account) to be really 4GB. In this case, it would "only" be cheating. In other cases, it might be flat-out lying: Making up values that simply are not true. On other hardware the true memory amount might really be 3.694 GB. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c14 --- Comment #14 from Ladislav Slezak 2009-01-16 09:47:31 MST --- The problem is how to detect the "stolen" memory by hardware components. It's hard to distinguish 2GB memory modules divided into 1GB RAM + 1GB video ram from 1GB memory modules + 1GB dedicated memory on the graphics card. For system is looks the same. And for user it's also the same - applications cannot run in video ram. The displayed memory depends on the context - you have to differ between installed memory, available memory for system, the space for applications, 1024 vs. 1000 powers (as mentioned in the previous comment). That's why are there so many numbers. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c16 --- Comment #16 from Ladislav Slezak 2009-01-16 10:27:05 MST --- I agree, but the problem is _how_ to detect that. I'm afraid it is not possible. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220 User ptesarik@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465220#c18 --- Comment #18 from Petr Tesařík 2009-01-19 15:36:36 MST --- Ladislav, if the only problem is _HOW_ to do it, there usually is a way. Most machines nowadays have SMBIOS, so you could query the memory modules like this: azariah:~ # dmidecode -q -t 6 Memory Module Information Socket Designation: DIMM Slot 1 Bank Connections: 0 1 Current Speed: 155 ns Type: DIMM SDRAM Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Error Status: OK Memory Module Information Socket Designation: DIMM Slot 2 Bank Connections: 2 3 Current Speed: 155 ns Type: DIMM SDRAM Installed Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Enabled Size: 1024 MB (Double-bank Connection) Error Status: OK I'm not absolutely sure that showing the sum of all these numbers is really what most users will appreciate, though... Oh, and BTW on some machines (especially very large ones, e.g. an s390x or a 1024-CPU Itanium server) you may often see installed but not enabled memory modules. Should the installed size be reported, or the currently enabled? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.