[Bug 587146] New: Goggle is Indexing all our Feature Request Information
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c0 Summary: Goggle is Indexing all our Feature Request Information Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE.org Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: openFATE AssignedTo: tschmidt@novell.com ReportedBy: alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au QAContact: freitag@novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100204 SUSE/3.5.8-0.1.1 Firefox/3.5.8 Goggle is indexing all feature requests. I know the login and session is via HTTPS but there appears to be HTTP Mailinglist Archives being indexed and everything is on display - I strongly suggest we use PKI Signed Messages auto-generated and manually generated. lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-features/2009-02/msg00224.html - Cached [openFATE 305688] system wide spellchecker (hunspell) Feature changed by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Feature #305688, revision 14 ... + #7: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2009-02-27 23:19:23) ... lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-features/2009-02/msg00224.html - Cached [openFATE 305715] Package event framework * From: fate_noreply@xxxxxxx * Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:06:07 +0100 (CET) * Message-id: <feature-305715-12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Feature changed by: Casper Clemence (maninalift) Feature #305715, revision 12 Title: Package event framework openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Andreas Gruenbacher (agruen) Description: The installation, upgrade, or removal of several packages triggers actions such as running ldconfig, rebuilding the initrd, or similar. Those actions are not specific to the package at hand, but either global with a system-wide effect (such as running ldconfig), or they affect a group of packages (such as all kernel (sub-)packages of a specific version, including all KMPs affecting it). Those actions need to be run eventually (with order restrictions relative to other package installs, upgrades, or removals), but running them again and again for each package is wasteful. (Example: with the kernel packages split into kernel-$flavor-base, kernel-$flavor, and kernel-$flavor-extra in CODE11, we currently run mkinitrd out of the %post script of each package. We don't know which of those packages will be installed, and when generating the initrd is supposed to succeed. This both wastes time, and we also cannot tell transient from permanent failures.) In former days, SuSEconfig was used for some of those tasks, but it turned into a major nightmare (perhaps due to its design). It would be nice if we could come up with a framework in which packages can trigger events and define which actions they need to be run, and rpm will then perform those actions in an appropriate order, avoiding repeating the same action unnecessarily. (The dependencies between actions and package installs/upgrades/removals are somewhat complex, but I think they are manageable.) Discussion: #1: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2009-01-23 18:09:34) This is desirable only as it happens within RPM's framework (or if the additions are "candy" that does not affect the actual result). This includes upstreaming. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Ask Google - It appears it is freely indexing the mail archive NOT the FATE session but I think to give free access to mailing archives and thus FATE is not the way to go. I think we need to get creative (again)...seems Goggle knows when we all fart! 2. 3. Actual Results: Google Search Screen output is below in its entirety Expected Results: Q.A You may want to reclassify # [openFATE 305688] system wide spellchecker (hunspell) Feature changed by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Feature #305688, revision 14 ... + #7: Scott Couston (zczc2311) (2009-02-27 23:19:23) ... lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-features/2009-02/msg00224.html - Cached # -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c1 --- Comment #1 from Thomas Schmidt <tschmidt@novell.com> 2010-03-10 18:42:17 CET --- What is the issue? Do we need to anonymize the usernames as it is done for non-logged in users in openfate? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c Thomas Schmidt <tschmidt@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |alpha096@virginbroadband.co | |m.au -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c2 Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |alpha096@virginbroadband.co | |m.au Info Provider|alpha096@virginbroadband.co | |m.au | --- Comment #2 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-13 00:05:25 UTC --- I searched via my non real user name. I use a standard user nick of 'zczc2311' which produced the alarming results. I think the indexing is created from a mail archive that is a latter part of the process of both FATE and Bugzilla sessions. We know nothing can index out HTTPS traffic and hence thats one reason why we predominantly use it. A good test of the issue would be to search under your user nick ID and see what has been indexed. I am not aware of how the archived emailing is extracted from FATE, however in this case the Mail archive I quoted DID have an HTTPS URL at the bottom. I am sorry I did not include this. I suppose the decision to prevent ANY further indexing exposure of FATE AND/OR Bugzilla rests with Management and the process of how the email archives are produced is a technical one. This bug is just a further enlightenment of how our protected HTTPS traffic ends up being indexed by Google - your choices and actions are yours to decide and discuss. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c3 Thomas Schmidt <tschmidt@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |alpha096@virginbroadband.co | |m.au --- Comment #3 from Thomas Schmidt <tschmidt@novell.com> 2010-03-15 11:32:31 CET --- Sorry, I still don't understand it what is the 'alarming part' here? Google is indexing the public mailing list archive where FATE posts the feature changes. Google also indexes the openfate pages directly. I don't see how this is related to HTTPS traffic. So the only issue i can imagine is that we don't want to see the peoples realnames in the archive. Please tell me what the reason for this bugreport is. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c4 Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|alpha096@virginbroadband.co | |m.au | --- Comment #4 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-15 17:38:47 UTC --- The point was that NO indexing can take place with any HTTPS traffic,that's why it exists for 1......., and that's why almost all of our project traffic is HTTPS. So the indexing is coming from users Nik and Real Name being married yp with mail archives. Yes your idea in needing to anonymize the user 'nick' and 'user name' are right on the money.This will prevent a index between the archive mailing lists to a user or nik from ever occurring. I per say, am not unduly alarmed, and it appear that you are confused about HTTPS traffic also, however Management in KDE, opensuse, Novell may not see it that way. This advise is information waiting for Management's to decide. I would never pretend to have a complete upstanding of Goggles processes, however this bug is merely advice to management and your technical skill in changing users NIK and Actual Name needs anonymity. If you cannot just bring this to the management table for discussion and resolution, just close this bug as WONTFIX... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c5 Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rhaidl@novell.com --- Comment #5 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-15 17:51:08 UTC --- Have you even read this weeks weekly news? I suggest you do this as it exactly what I am talking about with our(opensuse) complete data ion the net. QA - Impact is on total knowledge base of wiki, fate, bugzilla and not confined to opensuse but also Novell -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c6 --- Comment #6 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-15 18:00:03 UTC --- The complete data written in our forums, not email ones, is also on wide world display because of this issue. I dont prevent to understand the complexity of Google on how it built indexes, bud anonomizing users correct name AND Nik, and waiting 30 days will tell. Sorry for the SPAM multi entries Guys.. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c7 Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |526429 --- Comment #7 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-18 00:00:31 UTC --- If you need to remove this functional dependency, please state why! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Goggle is Indexing all our |Goggle is Indexing all |Feature Request Information |FATE, Bugzilla, IRC Chat, | |email Archierves; anything | |that has a Nik or Real Name | |or Both -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c8 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com --- Comment #8 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2010-03-18 11:20:46 UTC --- So, what do you propose to display instead of "Scott Couston (zczc2311)" in the mail archives of the feature emails? * I would suggest to use "Scott Couston" * Alternative "zczc2311" - like without login etc. * Nothing - just "somebody" -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c9 Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #9 from Scott Couston <alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au> 2010-03-18 18:30:21 UTC --- My concern is NOT for Myself. I could not care less about my own anonymity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My concern is for opensuse.org and Novell, ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............................................................... I used the example above only. My intent was for opensuse.org to discuss weather this new collaboration of opensuse.org Nik and Real Username with all opensuse.org information was acceptable to management and if not what can be done. It is clear in #8 that this is of no importance to opensuse.org nor Novell..there I close this as its importance is negligible to both opensuse.org and Novell. Closed with status that this situation is perfectly acceptable to you -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587146#c Bug 587146 depends on bug 526429, which changed state. Bug 526429 Summary: [AI]: Get Emails and IRC Cloaks of new members setup http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526429 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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