[Bug 443364] New: desktop-data-openSUSE: Confusing menu "Edutainment-> Science"
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 Summary: desktop-data-openSUSE: Confusing menu "Edutainment- >Science" Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: Beta 3 Platform: All OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Minor Priority: P5 - None Component: GNOME AssignedTo: bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: sbrabec@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de CC: stbinner@novell.com, vuntz@novell.com Found By: --- Due to strange design od Freedesktop Categories, scientific software must use category Education in its Categories: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2008-September/009969.html http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html The openSUSE menu for Education uses neologism "Edutainment" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edutainment). Translators often use words like "School as a playground". Due to upper mentioned mis-design, scientific sofware (tools for geology, mathematics etc.) falls into ugly "Edutainment->Science". Translations like "School as a playground->Science" look purely misleading. Proposal to fix: Short time: Change the menu design putting "Science" one level upper, possibly having sub-categories for particular sciences, as defined in "Registered Categories". Long time: Fix Freedesktop categories registry allowing Science as a separate main category not depending on Education. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com |stbinner@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 User stbinner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364#c1 --- Comment #1 from Stephan Binner <stbinner@novell.com> 2008-11-11 02:24:57 MST --- Why not talk to the translators about their misleading translation? And where would you draw the line between a top-level science and edutainment hierarchy? What would eg Celestia be? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 User sbrabec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364#c2 --- Comment #2 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2008-11-11 05:49:04 MST --- I guess that translators correctly translated the word "edutainment" ("education and amusement"), but up to fixing of freedesktop categories, we need to say "education and science". Celestia may be Categories=Education. Even if it is also used as a quick visualisation tool in astronomy, the primary target is education. But tool for Fourier transform analysis or geographical data processing should be Categories=Science;. It is not yet possible (will be refused by SuSE QA scripts), so these tools have to use Categories=Education;Science;. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 Stephan Binner <stbinner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443364 Stephan Binner <stbinner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|stbinner@novell.com |wstephenson@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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