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[Bug 284725] New: zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

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15 Jun 2007 15 Jun '07

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Summary: zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Minor Priority: P5 - None Component: libzypp AssignedTo: kkaempf@novell.com ReportedBy: bryce1@obviously.com QAContact: kkaempf@novell.com Since zypper can get information on a single package, it seems reasonable to assume zypper can can update a single package. But the syntax for this is unclear. The documentation could resolve this confusing, by explicitly stating "updates" behavior. ----------------------------------- Package management under SUSE 10.2 is pretty dang confusing -- with several update managers, giant cpu and system loads, and byzantine procedures. This is an area where I hope SUSE 10.3 can make great strides. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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18 Jun 18 Jun

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kkaempf@novell.com |jsrain@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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20 Jun 20 Jun

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c1 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |bryce1@obviously.com --- Comment #1 from Ján Kupec 2007-06-20 06:30:02 MST --- I'm afraid i don't understand very well. Can you be more specific about what should be changed? Currently, zypper install <package> is intended to update the package. zypper update is meant to update all installed packages (well, with patches by default, you have to specify -t package if you want to update all packages with newer versions). All of this is (hopefully) described in the man page and help texts, and on zyppers wiki page on opensuse.org. Anything we miss? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21 Jun 21 Jun

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|bryce1@obviously.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jsrain@novell.com |jkupec@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |bryce1@obviously.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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22 Jun 22 Jun

04:34

New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c2 --- Comment #2 from Bryce Nesbitt 2007-06-21 22:34:08 MST --- It's unclear if "zypper update <package>" is supposed to work. What if I only want to update one package? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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07:05

New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c3 --- Comment #3 from Ján Kupec 2007-06-22 01:05:49 MST --- update command takes no argument, you can see that from man page and help text. But yes, the help text is somewhat poor in description: man page: update (up) Update resolvables. (command options follow...) help text: update [options] (command options follow...) I will fix that. What about: man page: update (up) [options] Update all installed resolvables with newer versions, if available. help text: update [options] 'update' - Update all installed resolvables with newer versions, if available. (command options follow...) BTW: to update a single package, use zypper install <package>. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c4 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|bryce1@obviously.com | Resolution| |FIXED Target Milestone|--- |openSUSE 10.3 --- Comment #4 from Ján Kupec 2007-06-22 01:55:01 MST --- Done. Closing the bug as fixed, if you'd like to discuss it further, just reopen it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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21:26

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c5 Bryce Nesbitt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #5 from Bryce Nesbitt 2007-06-22 15:26:38 MST --- I suggest text: 'update' - Update all installed pacakges with newer versions, if available. It is not possible to update packages individually. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Jun 25 Jun

07:26

New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c6 --- Comment #6 from Ján Kupec 2007-06-25 01:26:48 MST --- This is a bit overkill for the description (and not accurate - it actually is possible to update a single package, although not with this command :O). What about a NOTE in man page? NOTE: to update individual packages use zypper install <package> -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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2 Jul 2 Jul

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c7 --- Comment #7 from Jesse Michael 2007-07-02 12:10:01 MST --- Yeah, I ran into this also. I don't think it's very intuitive to use "zypper install ..." to update a package that's already installed. Better notes in the documentation are definitely required if we want to keep using that ui. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c8 --- Comment #8 from Bryce Nesbitt 2007-07-02 12:16:55 MST --- That's the syntax? Really?! Never would have figured that out. Definitely you need to get a non-expert in this command to rewrite the documentation, and perhaps work on the syntax as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c9 --- Comment #9 from Cristian Rodriguez 2007-07-02 16:55:17 MST --- jan: I agree with people here, the syntax is not quite right . zypper update foobar should IMHO update a single package. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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3 Jul 3 Jul

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c10 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED --- Comment #10 from Ján Kupec 2007-07-03 02:17:51 MST --- OK people, honestly, i was hit by this too when i started to use debian's apt some years ago. Then i realized the install command should be read as 'install the latest available version of a package while maintaining all dependencies satisfied'. That means, if a package is already installed, it will get updated. In fact all command-line package managers do it like this. There is only one (AFAIK) which uses also other command for the purpose of updating an already installed package: yum and its update command. All others use update or upgrade command (or other) for updating ALL installed packages only. However, enabling zypper update to take package names as arguments to restrict the operation to those packages only is probably not a bad idea, but let's think about it a little bit longer. But rest assured i will get the documentation right anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14 Aug 14 Aug

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New subject: [Bug 284725] zypper update - syntax unclear for updating a single package

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c12 --- Comment #12 from Ján Kupec 2007-08-14 11:49:18 MST --- I have changed the manual page (zypper>0.8.10) to say the following: ---man page--START--- install (in) [options] <capability> ... Install or update resolvables. <snip> If EDITION is not specified, the newest available version will be installed. This also means that if the package is already installed and newer versions are available, it will get upgraded to the newest one. <snip> update (up) [options] Update all installed resolvables with newer versions, where applicable. To update individual packages, use zypper install <name> (see documentation of the install command for details). ---man page--END--- As for the update command taking package names of packages which should be updated as arguments, i will file a feature request and close this bug as LATER (although it is not difficult to implement, it can't go to 10.3 at this phase). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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15 Aug 15 Aug

06:27

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c14 Bryce Nesbitt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|LATER | --- Comment #14 from Bryce Nesbitt 2007-08-15 00:27:46 MST --- Much clearer. Though, I'm not sure it's working: http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/ | wireshark | 3886-0 | security | Needed http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/ | xpdf | 3974-0 | security | Needed hardhat:/home/bryce # zypper install xpdf Restoring system sources... Parsing metadata for http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2/... Parsing metadata for 20070711-224642... Parsing RPM database... skipping package 'xpdf' (already installed) Summary: Nothing to do. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c15 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |LATER --- Comment #15 from Ján Kupec 2007-08-15 01:09:54 MST --- Bryce, install works with packages by default, update works with patches by default. If you've got the 'already installed' message, it means no newer version is available. There may be patches available, though. Use zypper install -t patch xpdf to install the patch. Also, to update all packages with newer package versions the update command, use zypper update -t package, otherwise it will update the packages with patches, not newer packages. The main reason for this is security. Many users of openSUSE use factory. Using zypper update -t package updates LOTS of packages, and as the factory is a development repository, that may likely need to a corrupt system. Thus it is desirable that only those who know what they do, do the zypper update -t package. Apllying patches (the default) does not harm. After all, factory does not contain any AFAIK. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c16 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|LATER | --- Comment #16 from Ján Kupec 2007-10-06 08:06:46 MST --- reopening for 11.0 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c17 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |in-svn --- Comment #17 from Ján Kupec 2008-04-13 10:36:58 MST --- done in svn, to be in zypper 0.10.6 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c18 --- Comment #18 from Ján Kupec 2008-04-13 10:38:22 MST --- (In reply to comment #17 from Ján Kupec)

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done in svn, to be in zypper 0.10.6 i meant zypper > 0.10.6

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 User dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c19 Dave Plater changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk --- Comment #19 from Dave Plater 2008-04-15 00:06:04 MST --- I've noticed that yast does not say reading installed packages anymore, could this be the problem? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=284725#c20 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED Status Whiteboard|in-svn | --- Comment #20 from Ján Kupec 2008-04-15 05:25:31 MST --- submitted -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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