[Bug 315030] New: software manager: provide column with date&time of installation
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030 Summary: software manager: provide column with date&time of installation Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Final Platform: i586 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: YaST2 AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: bluedzins@wp.pl QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- Reason: currently there is no mechanism to revert installation of packages (scenario: I installed today xen with required libraries, what should I uninstall now?). Such information would not be a solution per se, but it would be a big help for users to analyze recently installed packages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030
Cyril Hrubis
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c1
Ladislav Slezak
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c2
Maciej Pilichowski
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c3
Ladislav Slezak
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c4
Maciej Pilichowski
The more information is displayed the more confused (esp. beginner) users.
In this case -- I doubt it. All columns I have are off the screen and this is like this for a looong time.
the only way would be to display it optionally.
I wouldn't mind it. However I think fixed columns are better approach, I teach people how to use computers (at many levels) and I didn't see that info "installation time" with date&time could confuse somebody. Besides -- we are talking about yast/SM.
And the rollback must be performed manually by an experienced user
? If user is "experienced" enough to check the package to install she/he is experienced enough to check it for delete. Besides, what you have to offer to intermediate user? Completely beginner rather won't start SM, guru will handle the problem, what about the rest?
who should know how to get list of recently installed packages ('rpm -qa --last').
I didn't it :-) GUI simplifies a lot of things. In case of rpm you have to either read manual or to know in advance the solution. In GUI world you go with the flow, you can use what you see right away.
I can't see any advantage here. Or how it could help?
Ladislav, what is the point of this whole Yast/SM thing? All things you can do with bare rpm, right? So the advantage is still the same -- productivity. Let's imagine SM with this feature. I run SM, click on install.date column, I check five top packages to delete, I click accept. Now, rpm version. # man rpm oh boy, what should I look for? installed? installation? time? maybe I'd better use google... # gg:rpm sort installation time # rpm -qa --queryformat '%{installtime} %{name}-%{version}-%{release} %{installtime:date}\n' | sort -nr +1 | sed -e 's/^[^ ]* //' It was the best I could find for several minutes. After looking at this I feel like I am not worth using Linux, because I don't have time to study this. And except for admins I doubt there anybody have so much time to perform simple tasks studying so much. And what's more, this does not work. Ok, let's add magic, somehow user found out the solution # rpm -qa --last oh wait, stop, gosh, the list is too long # rpm -qa --last | more # ctrl+n (new tab in Konsole) # rpm -e # tab, mouse sel, crtrl+c god, ctrl+ins # shift+up # ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab # mouse sel, ctrl+ins, tab, shift+ins, tab ok, we are done # tab # enter Oki doki, that was easy ;-DD Ladislav, come on :-) GUI was "invented" just for such tasks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
In this case -- I doubt it. All columns I have are off the screen and this is
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c5
Ladislav Slezak
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c6
Stefan Hundhammer
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c7
--- Comment #7 from Maciej Pilichowski
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c8
Klaus Kämpf
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c10
Klaus Kämpf
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c11
Klaus Kämpf
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=315030#c12
Duncan Mac-Vicar
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