https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c2 --- Comment #2 from Stefan Seyfried 2013-04-26 10:36:05 CEST --- This is journalctl -b as root, one system message (polkit), one from my xinitrd (echo) Apr 25 20:50:29 susi.home.s3e.de polkitd[768]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:1 (system bus name :1.23, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale de_DE.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus) Apr 25 20:50:31 susi.home.s3e.de /etc/gdm/Xsession[1773]: ++ echo /home/seife both with --output=verbose: Thu 2013-04-25 20:50:29 CEST [s=190b7c4182034708a9802cf55e4331f6;i=11ed8;b=56df04ba56624da68a858fc6ed717deb;m=512c5c5;t=4db33e46eab9d;x=762c8cc34dcfbe82] _SELINUX_CONTEXT=[11B blob data] _MACHINE_ID=771e4878cae64bc26a8e122300000302 _HOSTNAME=susi.home.s3e.de PRIORITY=5 _TRANSPORT=syslog SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=polkitd _UID=499 _GID=499 _COMM=polkitd _EXE=/usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd _CMDLINE=/usr/lib/polkit-1/polkitd --no-debug _SYSTEMD_CGROUP=/system/polkit.service _SYSTEMD_UNIT=polkit.service SYSLOG_FACILITY=10 _BOOT_ID=56df04ba56624da68a858fc6ed717deb SYSLOG_PID=768 _PID=768 MESSAGE=[181B blob data] _SOURCE_REALTIME_TIMESTAMP=1366915829114615 Thu 2013-04-25 20:50:31 CEST [s=c807fbc558f74fe6b8ad6ccfcc24f305;i=11ed9;b=56df04ba56624da68a858fc6ed717deb;m=53c0f36;t=4db33e497f50e;x=1ea7dd6b125a0136] _UID=10329 _GID=100 _AUDIT_LOGINUID=10329 _SELINUX_CONTEXT=[11B blob data] _MACHINE_ID=771e4878cae64bc26a8e122300000302 _HOSTNAME=susi.home.s3e.de PRIORITY=4 _AUDIT_SESSION=2 _SYSTEMD_CGROUP=/user/seife/2 _SYSTEMD_SESSION=2 _TRANSPORT=stdout SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=/etc/gdm/Xsession MESSAGE=++ echo /home/seife _COMM=ck-launch-sessi _EXE=/usr/bin/ck-launch-session _CMDLINE=/usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session /home/seife/.xinitrc _SYSTEMD_OWNER_UID=10329 _PID=1773 _BOOT_ID=56df04ba56624da68a858fc6ed717deb I still think the user's stuff has no business in the system journal :-) The user has its own journal where this is stored, so we'll be storing it twice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c4 --- Comment #4 from Stefan Seyfried 2013-04-26 11:39:13 CEST --- Ok. I thought only option "-m" would aggregate all journals. This options seems pretty useless if it is default now :-) Please also ask for an option to not aggregate all journals :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c Ye Yuan changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |yyuan@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |fcrozat@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c7 --- Comment #7 from Stefan Seyfried 2013-05-31 16:02:19 CEST --- so how do we at least filter out the xsession-errors stuff from forwarding to /var/log/messages? Or is that also impossible? I accept that journald is not going to be useful for me :-), but then at least if I remove /var/log/journal and setup syslog-ng, I'd should be able to get the old behaviour back: logs for everything that was logged via syslog(2) and syslog(3), but not for everything and the kitchen sink collected by journald. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c9 --- Comment #9 from Stefan Seyfried 2013-06-01 13:54:45 CEST --- unfortunately, this will not only stop xsession-errors being forwarded to syslog but also everything kenrel and else below priority 4 (it seems like the gdm output is logged with PRIORITY=4). I'll create a workaround by wrapping journalctl to chail it into a directory where only system files are linked and add filters to syslog-ng to filter out the xsession-errors stuff -- even though it feels really silly having to do that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|fcrozat@suse.com |systemd-maintainers@suse.de -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c12 Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|fcrozat@suse.com | --- Comment #12 from Frederic Crozat 2013-12-09 16:14:11 UTC --- (In reply to comment #11)

(In reply to comment #10)

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upstream has landed a patch to journatctl to get only "system" logs (journalctl --system). I'll backport it (or we will get it when we update systemd)

What is status of this backport/update currently ?

it is available in 13.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817212#c14 Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|fcrozat@suse.com | --- Comment #14 from Frederic Crozat 2014-05-05 08:19:14 UTC --- nowadays, gdm (and GNOME) are pushing their logs to journal. The question was to be able to not see them with journalctl, which is possible now, and in syslog, which is not possible. I suggest to close bug as FIXED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.