[Bug 227111] New: Text is so large that system is unusable
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 Summary: Text is so large that system is unusable Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de The text on the system is enormous. The text under the icons such as my computer and the recycle bin take up most of the screen. The new kicker menu is unusable because it runs off the screen. The tip that comes up when KDE starts cannot be closed because it is so big it does not fit on the screen (The text is large enough that it would probably take up four screens). Let me know if there is any other info I can provide that would help (although I'm not sure what I'll be able to do with the system in its current state). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kde-maintainers@suse.de |ms@novell.com Component|KDE |SaX2 ------- Comment #1 from coolo@novell.com 2006-12-08 07:58 MST ------- that means your X is not correctly configured for your screen size -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Major |Normal Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #2 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-08 08:38 MST ------- call: init 3 sax2 -r -a ---> send the file /var/log/SaX.log send the information from hwinfo --monitor Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #3 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-08 10:44 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=108929) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=108929&action=view) SaX.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #4 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-08 10:45 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=108930) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=108930&action=view) Output from "hwinfo --monitor" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #5 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-08 10:52 MST ------- I also thought I'd add that I'm using a Syntax Olevia LT26HVX HD-ready LCD TV as my monitor, which has a PC compatible 1280x1024 resolution mode. This was working just fine in openSUSE 10.1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #6 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-11 02:23 MST ------- Thanks for the log information. Unfortunately they didn't show me the problem. There is no size information detected from hwinfo and sax2 so the X11 default should apply. If you don't mind could you send me the written configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf from comment #2 and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file after you have started X with that configuration file. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #7 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-11 06:27 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109142) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109142&action=view) xorg.conf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #8 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-11 06:28 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109143) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109143&action=view) Xorg.0.log Thanks for the help. Let me know if there's any other info that you need. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #9 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-11 07:57 MST ------- The display size was set to DisplaySize 340 270 is that wrong ? you mentioned this is a TV screen how big is it ? Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #10 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-11 09:18 MST ------- That likely is wrong because it is a 26" TV. The xorg.conf file says at the top "PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!" Should I edit it anyway so that it has the correct sizes in millimeters? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #11 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-11 11:02 MST ------- I changed the xorg.conf file so that the DisplaySize was 578 by 324. It made no noticeable difference after reboot. Even if the display size were off by a factor of 2 I'm not sure that would be the problem because the text is at least 20 times too big. In Konsole, the KDE terminal, the menu takes up the top half of the screen because the text is so large. The text in the application itself is properly sized. The same goes with other applications I have tried such as Firefox. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ms@novell.com |kde-maintainers@suse.de Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #12 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-12 02:47 MST ------- ok so this must be another problem. I fixed the monitor specs according to your information Size = 578 x 324 Reassign this bug back to kde-maintainers -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #13 from coolo@novell.com 2006-12-12 03:05 MST ------- well, what does xdpyinfo say? And what fonts are defined in kcmshell fonts? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #14 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-12 05:59 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109323) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109323&action=view) Output from xdpyinf I'm not really familiar with kcmshell, but I typed "kcmshell fonts" in konsole and got the following: General: Sans Serif 10 Fixed width: monospace 10 Toolbar: Sans Serif 10 Menu: Sans Serif 10 Window title: Sans Serif 10 I'm afraid that's all the output from kcmshell I was able to read. The text is so large that I couldn't get more than 5 rows of it on the screen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #109323|Output from xdpyinf |Output from xdpyinfo description| | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kde-maintainers@suse.de |ms@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #15 from coolo@novell.com 2006-12-12 09:17 MST ------- dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (40x30 millimeters) resolution: 813x867 dots per inch This is not fixed. Sorry, your X config is still hosed. Now it's 40x30mm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #16 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-12 09:35 MST ------- Any ideas on how I can fix this? Is editing the xorg.conf file not enough or not the right thing to do? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #17 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-12 09:37 MST ------- the configuration includes a valid DisplaySize information according to comment #11, so why should this be a configuration issue ? What exactly are the contents of the xorg.conf __now___ ! What exactly is set for the option DisplaySize ? Did you restart the X-Server after the change ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #18 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-12 10:07 MST ------- I'm afraid I was confused by Stephan's comment saying my X config is hosed. While xdpyinfo does say my display is 40 x 30 mm, I'm not sure why that is. The only change I made since installing my system was to change the display size to 578 x 324 mm. As mentioned previously, I then rebooted my machine to restart the X-server and didn't notice any change. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #19 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-12 10:46 MST ------- so your current X configuration includes the line DisplaySize 578 324 doesn't it ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #20 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-12 12:04 MST ------- Yes, it does include that line. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ms@novell.com |sndirsch@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #21 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-13 03:48 MST ------- so this is no longer a configuration issue Stefan something is wrong with the DPI setup here -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #22 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 04:39 MST ------- I think that the previously broken dpi value is now configured in your Gnome desktop. You need to reset it in Gnome control center. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #23 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-13 06:08 MST ------- I didn't install Gnome. I installed KDE. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sndirsch@novell.com |kde-maintainers@suse.de Status|ASSIGNED |NEW Component|SaX2 |KDE ------- Comment #24 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 06:15 MST ------- Then it's a KDE issue. Adjust it in KDE control center. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #25 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-13 07:24 MST ------- I can't adjust it in the control center because the text is so large I can't access a majority of the control center (it's off the screen). Is there a text file I can edit? What do you suggest I change the DPI to (higher or lower)? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #26 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 08:40 MST ------- Could you please attach again your current xorg.conf? Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|KDE |X.Org ------- Comment #27 from coolo@novell.com 2006-12-13 08:49 MST ------- To say it explicitly: there is no way KDE or GNOME can set a 813x867 dpi in xdpyinfo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #28 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-13 09:02 MST ------- My xorg.conf file is exactly the same as the one in comment #7 with the exception that I changed: DisplaySize 340 270 to: DisplaySize 578 324 I really don't know what attaching it again would accomplish. I would do it anyway, but I'm not at home at the moment and I don't see a reason to wait an entire day on on this issue to give no new info. It looks exactly the same with either configuration. I can change it back if you want. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kde-maintainers@suse.de |sndirsch@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW QAContact|qa@suse.de |sndirsch@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #29 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 09:40 MST ------- Then I cannot explain this behaviour. Please restart your Xserver and attach current /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log again. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #30 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-13 18:45 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109671) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109671&action=view) xorg.conf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #31 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-13 18:46 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109672) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109672&action=view) Xorg.0.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #32 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 20:36 MST -------
DisplaySize 578 324 (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 1280) (**) NV(0): Display dimensions: (40, 30) mm (**) NV(0): DPI set to (812, 866) This is totally strange. This looks like a driver/Xserver bug.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #33 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-13 21:11 MST -------
This is totally strange. This looks like a driver/Xserver bug. Not really.
(II) NV(0): clock: 108.0 MHz Image Size: 4 x 3 mm ^^^^^^^^^ This is expected as value in cm! The monitor is lying - as usual. :-( xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Helper.c:xf86SetDpi() [...] if (DDC && (DDC->features.hsize > 0 && DDC->features.vsize > 0) ) { /* DDC gives display size in mm for individual modes, * but cm for monitor */ ==> ddcWidthmm = DDC->features.hsize * 10; /* 10mm in 1cm */ ==> ddcHeightmm = DDC->features.vsize * 10; /* 10mm in 1cm */ } else { ddcWidthmm = ddcHeightmm = 0; } [...] } else if ( ddcWidthmm && ddcHeightmm ) { from = X_PROBED; xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, from, "Display dimensions: (%d, %d) mm\n", ddcWidthmm, ddcHeightmm ); ==> pScrn->widthmm = ddcWidthmm; ==> pScrn->heightmm = ddcHeightmm; if (pScrn->widthmm > 0) { pScrn->xDpi = (int)((double)pScrn->virtualX * MMPERINCH / pScrn->widthmm); } if (pScrn->heightmm > 0) { pScrn->yDpi = (int)((double)pScrn->virtualY * MMPERINCH / pScrn->heightmm); } if (pScrn->xDpi > 0 && pScrn->yDpi <= 0) pScrn->yDpi = pScrn->xDpi; if (pScrn->yDpi > 0 && pScrn->xDpi <= 0) pScrn->xDpi = pScrn->yDpi; } [...] xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, from, "DPI set to (%d, %d)\n", pScrn->xDpi, pScrn->yDpi); Unfortunately there is no option in nv driver to disable DDC probing. Could you move /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libddc.so out of the way to check, what's the result without any DDC probing? Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #34 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-14 08:03 MST ------- I guess you want me to temporarily move /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libddc.so to another directory then and reboot my machine? Is there anything you'd like to see after I do this (log files, etc.)? Would installing the nvidia binary help at all? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #35 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-14 08:07 MST ------- (In reply to comment #34)
I guess you want me to temporarily move /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libddc.so to another directory then Yes.
and reboot my machine? This is not necessary. Xserver restart is sufficient.
Is there anything you'd like to see after I do this (log files, etc.)? Sure. Does it help? Attach new logfile.
Would installing the nvidia binary help at all? Not now/yet.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | ------- Comment #36 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-14 17:32 MST ------- Thanks! You're a genius :o) That did fix my problem. (I'm using the 64-bit version, so I moved /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libddc.so) Is there anything that having moved this library will negatively affect? Was this an actual bug? If I do a fresh install sometime in the future of another system using the same tv/monitor is there anything I can do it works right off the bat? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #37 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-14 19:22 MST ------- (In reply to comment #36)
That did fix my problem. (I'm using the 64-bit version, so I moved /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libddc.so) Sorry, didn't consider this. You're right.
Is there anything that having moved this library will negatively affect? Good question. I would like to see a logfile to check this. ==> NEEDINFO
Was this an actual bug? IMHO it's a monitor bug to return nonsense values.
If I do a fresh install sometime in the future of another system using the same tv/monitor is there anything I can do it works right off the bat? Unfortunately you can't. So you need to move libddc.so away and reconfigure
BTW, hwinfo/sax2 didn't specify Displaysize since it rejects nonsens values like these proped with the monitor. You could argue, that the same should also be done in the Xserver and it's indeed surprising that the monitor size values proped by DDC have a higher priority than the manually given values in xorg.conf. the Xserver again with sax2. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #38 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-15 06:05 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=109901) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=109901&action=view) Xorg.0.log Thanks again for all your help. Like you said, it does seem like the Xserver should have taken the manual config over the nonsense numbers just because it seems like editing my xorg.conf file would make more sense than hiding a library. Anyway, it's a bit of a relief you found the problem. I'm happy to be able to keep using my favorite distro :o) Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mhopf@novell.com, eich@novell.com Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High ------- Comment #39 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-15 09:44 MST ------- Ok. Needs to be discussed, if the priority xorg.conf DisplaySize < DDC probing for the Display size should be changed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #40 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-16 17:43 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=110023) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=110023&action=view) xorg.conf I installed the nvidia driver and things went right back to how they were before. I'm not sure if there's some way to disable ddc probing in the nvidia driver or not. If not, that might be another reason to have the config file take precedence. I'm attaching the logs again. Let me know if you think there's any way for me to be able to use the nvidia binary without having this font size problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #42 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-16 22:16 MST -------
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (812, 866); ...
For the proprietary driver try Option "UseEDIDDpi" "FALSE" This driver doesn't load the ddc module at all to detect this information. This is another indication that your monitor returns nonsense data. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #43 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2006-12-16 23:47 MST ------- Thanks, like always. I added that to the xorg.conf file and moved the libddc.so file back to where it was originally. Everything's working great again. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #44 from eich@novell.com 2006-12-17 06:45 MST ------- This is still strange as the configured value takes precedence over the probed. If we look at the log file we see that the value is marked as configured not probed. The way SetDPI() works (at least here in my sources is as expected and don't explain the strange value we see. Also we should receive a warning message explaining that the ddc probed values disagree with the configured ones. There is some bogus code in xf86Configure.c that would explain this behavior - this code is however only used when CONFIGURE_DISPLAYSIZE is defined. I don't see it defined anywhere in the modular tree. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #45 from sndirsch@novell.com 2006-12-18 05:29 MST ------- (In reply to comment #44)
This is still strange as the configured value takes precedence over the probed. If we look at the log file we see that the value is marked as configured not probed. Indeed.
The way SetDPI() works (at least here in my sources is as expected and don't explain the strange value we see. Hmm ... looks like pScrn->monitor->widthmm/pScrn->monitor->heightmm is set to <= 0 - for whatever reasons.
Also we should receive a warning message explaining that the ddc probed values disagree with the configured ones. There is some bogus code in xf86Configure.c that would explain this behavior - this code is however only used when CONFIGURE_DISPLAYSIZE is defined. I don't see it defined anywhere in the modular tree. I agree.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P2 - High |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #46 from eich@novell.com 2007-01-12 14:01 MST ------- I will test this here. If there is a bug someplace it should be reproducible. The monitor seems to report bogus values - still these values should not be used if the config file contains better data. I wonder if we should have some DPI validation code when we use DDC values. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #48 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-01-12 18:10 MST ------- Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #49 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2007-01-15 15:06 MST ------- I went back to openSuse 10.1 because I just had too many problems with 10.2. I thought I'd just note here that everything works correctly with zero configuration on 10.1. It might help you to look at things that have changed between the two versions. Let me know if you want any info from my 10.1 system and thanks again for your help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 eich@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com ------- Comment #50 from eich@novell.com 2007-01-15 23:01 MST ------- At least part of your problem seemed to have been related to wrong DDC data provided by your monitor (from comment #31): (II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 4 vert.: 3 This seems to be a monitor issue which would hardly go away when switching to another OS product release. Therefore I would like to know how things differ with 10.1. Would you please attach the Xorg.0.log file obtained from 10.1? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #51 from eich@novell.com 2007-01-16 03:46 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=113077) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=113077&action=view) Fix. We can't fix the monitor - but we can allow user overrides. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|eich@novell.com |sndirsch@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com | Priority|P3 - Medium |P2 - High ------- Comment #52 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-01-16 03:48 MST ------- Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 sndirsch@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED ------- Comment #53 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-01-16 11:31 MST ------- fixed for 10.3/Factory. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #54 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2007-01-16 15:53 MST ------- Are you still interested in the Xorg.0.log file obtained from 10.1? I'd be happy to provide it since it still seems funny that everything works straight out of the box with 10.1 and the same monitor. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #55 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-01-16 16:13 MST ------- It's no longer required. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #56 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2007-01-16 16:19 MST ------- No problem. Thanks for the patch! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #58 from eich@novell.com 2007-01-17 00:42 MST ------- Yes, I AM interested. Please send it! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #60 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2007-01-17 07:56 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=113400) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=113400&action=view) Xorg.0.log from 10.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #61 from eich@novell.com 2007-01-19 01:06 MST ------- OK, on 10.1 you get: (**) NV(0): Display dimensions: (340, 270) mm (WW) NV(0): Probed monitor is 40x30 mm, using Displaysize 340x270 mm This looks like in 10.1 SaX2 has set the display dimensions to some sane value. Also the display override has not yet been broken yet. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #62 from sndirsch@novell.com 2007-01-19 03:08 MST -------
This looks like in 10.1 SaX2 has set the display dimensions to some sane value. which didn't change Also the display override has not yet been broken yet. This has been broken and you fixed it. :-)
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=227111 ------- Comment #63 from benjamin.j.mccann@gmail.com 2007-01-19 06:35 MST -------
This looks like in 10.1 SaX2 has set the display dimensions to some sane value. which didn't change Also the display override has not yet been broken yet. This has been broken and you fixed it. :-)
I'd agree. Looks like we're officially done investigating this one. Thanks again for the patch :o) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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