http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c2 --- Comment #2 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-12 07:20:39 MDT --- 11.0 with updates and KDE4 from the 11.0 STABLE repo. Many forum and blog posts report this issue with removable media. Most suggest editing some policy kit xml file but the suggested fix seems safer. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c4 --- Comment #4 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-04-14 01:18:56 MDT --- ah, and the output ck-list-sessions too please -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User lnussel@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c6 Ludwig Nussel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lnussel@novell.com AssignedTo|lnussel@novell.com |kde-maintainers@suse.de --- Comment #6 from Ludwig Nussel 2009-04-20 00:52:30 MDT --- so your displaymanager (I guess kdm4 in this case) doesn't register your user at policykit. => kde problem -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User llunak@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c8 Lubos Lunak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |mvdv@spamcop.net --- Comment #8 from Lubos Lunak 2009-04-20 09:53:59 MDT --- Does it work if you use other displaymanager then KDE from KDE4 (/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER)? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c10 Mark Van De Vyver changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|mvdv@spamcop.net | --- Comment #10 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-20 22:32:40 MDT --- Actually, it is not the display manager value in /etc/sysconfig that is the problem.... it is the window manager value. The suggested default value of kde gives the behavior seen so far. Set DEFAULT_WM to kwin instead of kde then: # resmgr dump ### begin dump class audioplayer class pda class scanner class modem class camera class usb class floppy class cdrom class input class video class sound class v4l class dvb class remote-x-desktop class desktop class desktop includes dvb class desktop includes v4l class desktop includes sound class desktop includes video class desktop includes input class desktop includes cdrom class desktop includes floppy class desktop includes usb class desktop includes camera class desktop includes scanner class desktop includes pda class desktop includes audioplayer login "mv" :0 grant "mv" desktop grant "mv" dvb grant "mv" v4l grant "mv" sound grant "mv" video grant "mv" input grant "mv" cdrom grant "mv" floppy grant "mv" usb grant "mv" camera grant "mv" scanner grant "mv" pda grant "mv" audioplayer ### end dump # ck-list-sessions Session2: uid = '1000' realname = 'Mark Van De Vyver' seat = 'Seat1' session-type = '' active = TRUE x11-display = ':0' x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7' display-device = '' remote-host-name = '' is-local = TRUE on-since = '2009-04-21T03:56:43Z' You end up in the ('broken'?) situation leading to the bug report if you install kde4 from the stable repos. Even if you fully un-install the KDE3 desktop pattern. The steps to this are quite involved. To me the KDE4 stable repo had bizarre internal contradictions and conflicts. I'll post the details in a separate comment. Would appreciate you indicating if you agree that some of these behaviors/effects are bugs, then I'll open separate bug reports. I think the (broken?) KDE4 stable repo might be why people using 11.0 are getting them selves into this pickle. It is also not established that using kwin as the default WM value will eliminate the need for the polkit-auth commands to be run on 11.0 at least. I think this would need to be confirmed via an installation of KDE3 on 11.0, updated to KDE4 from the stable repo first. Is that correct? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c12 --- Comment #12 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-20 22:38:51 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=286990) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=286990) KDE4 stable repo details that generate error on update -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c14 --- Comment #14 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-20 22:44:44 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=286992) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=286992) Changes to the default sysconfig settings after installing KDE4 as only desktop. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c16 --- Comment #16 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-20 22:50:42 MDT --- Steps leading up to the observation in comment #10 Also shows unexpected KDE4 stable repo behavior that likely leads to people experiencing the original bug or, at the very least, having ck-list-settings return empty. # cat /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager|grep -i displaymanager ## Description: settings to generate a proper displaymanager config # all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3" DISPLAYMANAGER_REMOTE_ACCESS="no" # that root can never login if DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN is "auto" and DISPLAYMANAGER_ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE="no" # Let the displaymanager start a local Xserver. DISPLAYMANAGER_STARTS_XSERVER="yes" DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER_TCP_PORT_6000_OPEN="no" DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN="" # DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN is empty. DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN="no" DISPLAYMANAGER_AD_INTEGRATION="no" # displaymanager), "auto" (follow DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN="all" # If set to "auto", DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto is used on laptops, and # DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto), the mode is defined and set. DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_VGA="auto" # Mode to use for laptops for DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_* on laptops only, DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto="1024x768_60 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync" # displaymanager (kdm/gdm/xdm) on Xgl on top of Xorg. DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER=Xorg DISPLAYMANAGER_XGL_OPTS="-accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer" ## Description: settings to generate a proper displaymanager config DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME="SUSE" DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_LOCALARGS="" ** So kde3 is indicated as the window manager *** Which should be impossible since not only have I updated from the KDE4:STABLE repos. TO Confirm this I'll describe what happens when I try to reinstall from the KDE4 stable repo. Details follow. To make sure I was using as pure KDE4 as I could, given 11.0, I had previously un-installed everything KDE3 that I could (I still require some KDE3 packages): rpm -qa --queryformat "%-30{NAME} %-20{VERSION}\n" |grep -i kde.*3\.5 kdelibs3 3.5.9 kdelibs3-default-style 3.5.9 Enabled repo listing: # zypper lr -u|grep -i "| Yes | Yes |" 10 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/ 11 | KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop | KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUS... 14 | openSUSE-11.0-Updates | Updates for 11.0 | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.0/ 15 | KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Extra-Apps | KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Extra-Apps | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Extra-Apps/open... 20 | KDE_4.0_Community | KDE:KDE4:Community | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE%3a/KDE4%3a/Community/openSUSE_... 34 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/non-oss/ Under the section "STABLE KDE Project (KDE 4.1.3)" on the page: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 Select the basic desktop for 11.0, accept the repos and software the one-click installer proposes to add: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUS... (KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop)- http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/building/openSUSE_11... (devel:tools:building) http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.0/ (openSUSE:11.0:Update)Running Software to be installed: kde4-dolphin kde4-kdepasswd kde4-kdialog kde4-keditbookmarks kde4-kfind kde4-kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE kde4-kmix kde4-konqueror kde4-konsole kde4-kwin kde4-kwrite kdebase4 kdebase4-openSUSE kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-plasmoids Select Next, then yes, login as root. Error dialog (screenshot attached, yast2-000.png) appears. Select try again. Repo details screen is presented(screenshot attached, yast2-001.png) . Enter Repository Name: "openSUSE-11.0:Devel:Tools". Select OK. Import devel:tools OBS key when prompted. Warning about workspace plasmoids appears (screenshot yast2-002.png). *** Yast@ wants to, not install, deinstall or downgrade to to KDE 4.0.4, a total of 65 packages!!! *** The 11.0 update repo seems to be the source of this error. The one click install clearly indicates 4.1.3 is going to be installed, but instead it looks like you can easily be downgraded to 4.0.4 **** The 11.0 updates repo and workspace plasmoids package are _both_ added by the oneclick installer **** Specifically, kdebase4-workspace-plasmoids package was not installed previously. So the choices are: a) Abort and moveon.org b) Accept the first choice (deinstall, not install, downgrade) c) Don't install/update kdebase4-workspace-plasmoids, d) Ignore dependencies e) Abort, disable the 11.0 updates repo, try again, in which case you'll go around in circles.... This is a bug? if so in.... - update repo? - STABLE:KDE4 repo? - one click installer? - elsewhere? Which is the recommended solution? Then I'll open a bug report for the above and update the wiki page to add a clear warning to: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 In the meantime I chose c) Interestingly this adds some "branding" packages clearly labeled 11.1..... None of the repos are 11.1 repos :) Installation was successful. Logout. Ctl+Atl+Backspace+Backspace to retart the windowsystem. The logon screen splash indicates I'm using KDE4.1 Sooooo, _now_ what display manager does sysconfig say I am using? # cat /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager|grep -i displaymanager ## Description: settings to generate a proper displaymanager config # all changes in this file require a restart of the displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER="kdm3" DISPLAYMANAGER_REMOTE_ACCESS="no" # that root can never login if DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN is "auto" and DISPLAYMANAGER_ROOT_LOGIN_REMOTE="no" # Let the displaymanager start a local Xserver. DISPLAYMANAGER_STARTS_XSERVER="yes" DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER_TCP_PORT_6000_OPEN="no" DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN="" # DISPLAYMANAGER_AUTOLOGIN is empty. DISPLAYMANAGER_PASSWORD_LESS_LOGIN="no" DISPLAYMANAGER_AD_INTEGRATION="no" # displaymanager), "auto" (follow DISPLAYMANAGER_SHUTDOWN="all" # If set to "auto", DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto is used on laptops, and # DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto), the mode is defined and set. DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_VGA="auto" # Mode to use for laptops for DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_* on laptops only, DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_auto="1024x768_60 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync" # displaymanager (kdm/gdm/xdm) on Xgl on top of Xorg. DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER=Xorg DISPLAYMANAGER_XGL_OPTS="-accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer" ## Description: settings to generate a proper displaymanager config DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME="SUSE" DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_LOCALARGS="" Is this not a bug? Specifically, uninstalling KDE3 leaves display and window manger settings in /etc/sysconfig populated with kde3 values. The reults of the commands:

sudo resmgr dump ck-list-sessions Are as before.

Changed sysconfig settings, via YaST2, as shown in screenshot yast2-003.png. logout, Ctl+Atl+Backspace+Backspace, login The reults of the commands:

sudo resmgr dump ck-list-sessions Are as before.

Okay, so now install the "XFCE Desktop Environment" pattern using YaST2 Change window manager and desktop manager to use xfce as shown in screenshot yast2-004.png. Logout, Ctl+Atl+Backspace+Backspace, login Login crednetials accepted for root and normal user, but unable to login. No errors just grey screen with Cameleon image 'in relief' style. Ctl+Alt+F7, login as root: init 3 & edit sysconfig to set display manager: kdm4 window manager: kwin (_not_ the suggested value of kde) init 5 & exit Log in. Start bash shell as root: # resmgr dump ### begin dump class audioplayer class pda class scanner class modem class camera class usb class floppy class cdrom class input class video class sound class v4l class dvb class remote-x-desktop class desktop class desktop includes dvb class desktop includes v4l class desktop includes sound class desktop includes video class desktop includes input class desktop includes cdrom class desktop includes floppy class desktop includes usb class desktop includes camera class desktop includes scanner class desktop includes pda class desktop includes audioplayer login "mv" :0 grant "mv" desktop grant "mv" dvb grant "mv" v4l grant "mv" sound grant "mv" video grant "mv" input grant "mv" cdrom grant "mv" floppy grant "mv" usb grant "mv" camera grant "mv" scanner grant "mv" pda grant "mv" audioplayer ### end dump # ck-list-sessions Session2: uid = '1000' realname = 'Mark Van De Vyver' seat = 'Seat1' session-type = '' active = TRUE x11-display = ':0' x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7' display-device = '' remote-host-name = '' is-local = TRUE on-since = '2009-04-21T03:56:43Z' SOOOO, it seems the problem is that in /etc/sysconfig: ############################################################################## ############################################################################## kwin _must_ be set as the window manger (DEFAULT_WM), and _not_ the current default value of kde. Then ck-list-sessions will return some (correct?) data ############################################################################## ############################################################################## -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160 User mvdv@spamcop.net added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494160#c18 --- Comment #18 from Mark Van De Vyver 2009-04-24 20:37:07 MDT --- Furthermore as an ordinary user I now see:

polkit-auth org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.bluetooth org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.wlan org.freedesktop.hal.killswitch.wwan org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-removable org.freedesktop.hal.storage.eject org.freedesktop.hal.storage.crypto-setup-removable org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.set-powersave org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.suspend org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.hibernate org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.standby org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.cpufreq org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.lcd-panel org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.light-sensor org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.keyboard-backlight org.freedesktop.hal.dockstation.undock org.freedesktop.hal.wol.enabled org.freedesktop.hal.wol.enable org.freedesktop.hal.wol.supported org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart org.freedesktop.hal.lock

I'm still working out if setting kwin as the window maanger is enough to get removable media functionality or if the pol-kit commands are still required.... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.