[Bug 636887] New: Installer Partitioning information doesn't indicate where it will install.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887#c0 Summary: Installer Partitioning information doesn't indicate where it will install. Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.3 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: graeme@argyllcms.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 Using openSUSE-11.3-GNOME-LiveCD-i686.iso Trying to install on an existing logical partition on a multi-OS, multi-boot system. Select "Create Partition Setup" and then "Custom Partioning" to use the existing partitioning. Two problems result: 1) It is not obvious how to specify which partition to install on. I guess you have to nominate it by specifying it to be the "/" mount point ? 2) After doing this, the partitioning summary doesn't indicate where the installation will be to. This makes it difficult to proceed with the installation with any confidence that it is not about to install over an existing OS. A summary that indicate what partitions will be written to (including MBR if that is enabled) is very important in confirming that the installation will be safe. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Attempt installation using an existing logical partition 2. 3. Actual Results: It is unclear where the installation will be written to, and what else will be touched. Expected Results: Installer should indicate clearly where the installation will be written to, and what other areas of the disk will be touched by the installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887#c wei wang <wewang@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wewang@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |locilka@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887#c Lukas Ocilka <locilka@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|locilka@novell.com |aschnell@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887#c1 Arvin Schnell <aschnell@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |aschnell@novell.com Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Arvin Schnell <aschnell@novell.com> 2010-09-03 12:42:52 UTC --- Sorry, but I don't see or understand the problem. Concerning 1): If you enter the expert partitioner (it is mentioned that this part is for experts) you must know what formatting and mount point means. Otherwise you can select the partitions where the system should be installed and don't have to set format options or mount points. Concerning 2): The summery clearly lists all actions with device names, e.g. "Format partition /dev/sda2 for /home". Could be that some users do not understand all of this. If you have an idea how to present these information to users who have no idea about hard disk, partitions, file systems, mount points and the like feel free to make a feature request. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636887#c2 --- Comment #2 from Graeme Gill <graeme@argyllcms.com> 2010-09-18 02:27:52 UTC ---
Concerning 1):
If you enter the expert partitioner (it is mentioned that this part is for experts) you must know what formatting and mount point means.
People don't suddenly jump from non-experts to experts :- there is a range of expertise. You could help people improve their expertise, and reduce mistakes (even by experts) by improving the UI a little. The SuSE expert partitioner UI seems more cryptic than that used by alternate Linux distributions. It's not obvious how to set mount points, and it turns out to be a multi-step process instead of something simple and direct (although I guess the sequential nature of it better allows for consistency checking and warnings). Choosing "Configure" is a red herring. There is no "Edit" button. Double clicking on a partition doesn't immediately seem to lead anywhere either. It takes some looking around to get to the edit screen. Having to leave the edit screen using a "Finish" button is a little scary ("What, am I about to finish the expert partitioner, or just this screen ?" Labelling the button "Accept" would be better, and more consistent with the other screens.) The help screen is not very helpful :- for instance: "Mount Point shows where the filesystem is mounted". This simply expands the acronym, without explaining what they are or why you would want to use them. "Edit partition Setup.." is basically unusable, because there is no indication in it of where the install is going to be to, and no way of changing it. Even when you edit all the partitions to turn formatting and mounting off, and change the root mount point to a different partition to the one originally suggested, the summary indicates that the originally set partition will be deleted. So for instance, it originally said it's going to install to and mount /dev/sda15 as root. I change it to mount /dev/sda16 as root, and on accepting this, the summary still says "Delete partition /dev/sda15" and "Create volume /dev/sda15". So it appears that the install partition is not settable from "Edit partition Setup..", and it isn't changed by changing the root mount point. Even selecting "Create Partition Setup.." after this, failed to fix the situation. I had to abort the install and start again, this time selecting "Create Partition Setup.." to get it to not overwrite /dev/sda15, and instead to install to /dev/sda16. Up front it's not obvious what the distinction is between "Create.." and "Edit.." is, or where they will lead.
Otherwise you can select the partitions where the system should be installed and don't have to set format options or mount points.
I can't see any other way of installing to a particular partition, other than using "Create Partition Setup..".
Concerning 2):
The summery clearly lists all actions with device names, e.g. "Format partition /dev/sda2 for /home".
It doesn't indicate where the kernel image and install files will be written. It doesn't indicate that it is about to write generic Boot Code to the MBR. (The latter setting is buried deep, and easy to overlook. I notice at least one other bug report triggered by this.) The summary should prominently indicate every change that will be written to the system, before they occur. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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