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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729#c2 --- Comment #2 from Scott Couston 2011-10-15 22:53:40 UTC --- I'm not sure with version - I would suggest this is relevant to 11.4 - The concept of Hardware detection is the issue. Sound is the issue when changing to new flat screen monitors that most often have inbuilt speakers. This hardware change creates the single green input for sound where as past would have multiple input is a change in hardware setup. If I want to later attach my sound to a surround sound system where the input sound leads change, again a change for a head set, again a change for auto-adjustment of connection to wrong output plugs. Example most new motherboards will auto correct multiple sound output leads in the incorrect (normally matching) colours! The issue is change in hardware we cannot automate via Yast but install can -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729#c4 --- Comment #4 from Jean-Daniel Dodin 2011-10-16 11:28:51 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3)

you oppened the bug against 11.3. With 11.4 (or 12.1), I have no problem.

There is *no* hardware detection against *speakers*, only against *sound card*. You may have a lot of jacks on one sound card (rear, front...), each have a different setup in the mixer. Use YaST, sound, *other* (in the bottom right), volume and see if you have some volume set. use the option "test" on the same place to hear the sound. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729#c6 --- Comment #6 from Scott Couston 2011-10-17 00:01:13 UTC --- If this is fixed in 11.4 then closed as fixed in 11.4. I could not agree more that we can only setup the sound card hardware. The problem of usability is that if the output sound changes from muti inputs to speakers to 1 single input to speaker - sound just does not happen. Its just not usable to talk in language of 'Pulse Audio', 'Start Sequencer'. What the hell are Midi Drivers, Direct Memory Access, 'Communications Codex',ALSA Drivers to a user. When a specific driver is loaded from update repositories, everything works, but God help you if you want to change anything - Kmix is so complicated with the confusion of 'backends' and duplication in System Settings - What the hell is a back end anyway. You and I can can write down memory registers and map out DMA points in Hex, Its not usable - I did not say it did not work - The issue is change - we don’t provide the easy ability to change. I really am a bit scared to look at kmix bugs - I have a hard time explaining back ends to users - We often risk creating an O/S fr the literate elite at the expense of usability -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729#c8 --- Comment #8 from Scott Couston 2011-10-17 00:02:31 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=456800) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=456800) 2 of 8 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723729#c14 --- Comment #14 from Scott Couston 2011-10-17 00:05:05 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=456806) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=456806) 8 of 8 Sorry about all the emails - I did not want to squash into 1 file this time -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.