https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c1 --- Comment #1 from Mike Fabian 2007-08-14 06:38:46 MST --- The “Oxford Concise” dictionary says: OC> gnu OC> /nuː/, /njuː/ n. any antelope of the genus Conochaetes, native to S. Africa, with OC> a large erect head and brown stripes on the neck and shoulders. Also called OC> wildebeest. [Bushman “nqu”, prob. through Dutch. gnoe] Note the “Also”. This seems to indicate that “gnu” is the preferred name for that kind of wild beast. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |ke@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | QAContact|novbugzilla- |ke@novell.com |bugs@forge.provo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c3 Luc Verhaegen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|lverhaegen@novell.com | Resolution| |LATER --- Comment #3 from Luc Verhaegen 2007-08-14 08:03:37 MST --- I think this has the potential to turn into a major political issue, and i believe that i should contact RMS personally to see what can be done. Maybe bribe him with a few BBC wildlife documentaries. This could take some time for it to be resolved appropriately :p -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c5 Karl Eichwalder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ke@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Status|REOPENED |NEW Component|Translations |Other QAContact|ke@novell.com |qa@suse.de --- Comment #5 from Karl Eichwalder 2007-08-14 08:16:27 MST --- political issues to be resolved by somebody else, please. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184 Greg Hendricks changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alias| |WILDEBEEST -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c8 --- Comment #8 from Juergen Weigert 2007-08-15 03:55:52 MST --- This needs to go upstream first. Until then we'll stick to the name the FSF chose. I suggest to RESOLVE LATER, April 1, 2008. Perhaps the joke is easier to grasp then. (Personally I'd prefer the original bushman term, nqu, this is much shorter than wildebeest and distinctivly unique) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c10 --- Comment #10 from Luc Verhaegen 2007-08-15 04:24:34 MST --- (In reply to comment #8 from Juergen Weigert)

This needs to go upstream first. Until then we'll stick to the name the FSF chose.

I suggest to RESOLVE LATER, April 1, 2008. Perhaps the joke is easier to grasp then.

(Personally I'd prefer the original bushman term, nqu, this is much shorter than wildebeest and distinctivly unique)

When this heavy politicised and bitter discussion started in the office here, the bushman term was dug up as well. But since no-one was able to pronounce it correctly (and some people did try), this argument was dropped. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c12 --- Comment #12 from Benjamin Weber 2007-08-16 05:35:58 MST --- The OED states: gnu: A South African quadruped (Catoblepas gnu), belonging to the antelope family, but resembling an ox or buffalo in shape; also known by its Dutch name wildebeest. The brindled gnu (Catoblepas gorgon) is a distinct species. It also notes that Gnu was used to refer to this animal as early as 1777. OED defines wildebeest as : The gnu, Connochætes taurinus or C. gnou. Which seems fairly conclusive, the preferred spelling is Gnu, unless you are dutch. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c14 --- Comment #14 from Benjamin Weber 2007-08-16 06:57:16 MST --- (In reply to comment #13 from Luc Verhaegen)

It is the English preferred spelling which is Wildebeest, which just got bastardised into gnu. Cheap entertainment shows are so bad for language purity.

OED's researched etymology would disagree with you. According to OED gnu was the original spelling, derived from the native word, wildebeest came later. I suggest you provide a scholarly source that differs from OED if you do not agree. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c16 --- Comment #16 from Luc Verhaegen 2007-08-16 07:07:39 MST --- (In reply to comment #14 from Benjamin Weber)

OED's researched etymology would disagree with you. According to OED gnu was the original spelling, derived from the native word, wildebeest came later. I suggest you provide a scholarly source that differs from OED if you do not agree.

Ah, but David Attenborough is a Cambridge man. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c18 --- Comment #18 from Benjamin Weber 2007-08-16 07:19:14 MST --- (In reply to comment #16 from Luc Verhaegen)

(In reply to comment #14 from Benjamin Weber)

...

OED's researched etymology would disagree with you. According to OED gnu was the original spelling, derived from the native word, wildebeest came later. I suggest you provide a scholarly source that differs from OED if you do not agree.

Ah, but David Attenborough is a Cambridge man.

Cambridge dictionary also has the same definition for Gnu and Wildebeest, unlike OED they do not have the etymology online. OED does, and is widely accepted as the world's best researched & most definitive English dictionary. So you still need to provide a source. So far your entire argument seems to be based on the dialect of one TV presenter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c20 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |LATER --- Comment #20 from Andreas Jaeger 2007-08-19 07:36:09 MST --- (In reply to comment #8 from Juergen Weigert)

I suggest to RESOLVE LATER, April 1, 2008. Perhaps the joke is easier to grasp then.

Ok, done. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=300184#c22 --- Comment #22 from Stefan Dirsch 2007-08-24 07:02:24 MST --- *** Bug 304299 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=304299 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.