[Bug 210265] New: change location for bluetooth-download
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 Summary: change location for bluetooth-download Product: SUSE LINUX 10.0 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Usability AssignedTo: siegfried.olschner@novell.com ReportedBy: axel.braun@gmx.de QAContact: siegfried.olschner@novell.com When files are transferred via bluetooth to the PC, they end up somewhere in the filesystem, until one looks (deep) into the configuration and finds out that it is in /var/lib/bluetooth. Assuming a newbie knows where to look..... As most other CD/DVD etc connect to /media, why not to link the download directory to /media/bluetooth? Looks much more foolproof to me..... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 siegfried.olschner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|siegfried.olschner@novell.co|evamaria.fuchs@novell.com |m | ------- Comment #1 from siegfried.olschner@novell.com 2006-12-11 07:14 MST ------- Reorganization of usability-bug assignments. We try to discharge the number of our bug entries in the next weeks. => Reassigned to efuchs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 ------- Comment #2 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2007-01-02 06:48 MST ------- if there are no technical reasons/needs why these files should go to /var/lib/bluetooth, to me it makes more sense that they are transfered directly to /media/bluetooth -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 evamaria.fuchs@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com ------- Comment #3 from evamaria.fuchs@novell.com 2007-01-25 06:33 MST ------- coolo, who is responsible for the technical solution of this issue? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|evamaria.fuchs@novell.com |behlert@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Component|Usability |Mobile Devices Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | QAContact|siegfried.olschner@novell.co|qa@suse.de |m | ------- Comment #4 from coolo@novell.com 2007-01-25 08:25 MST ------- mobile devices -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 behlert@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dgollub@novell.com, behlert@novell.com AssignedTo|behlert@novell.com |seife@novell.com ------- Comment #5 from behlert@novell.com 2007-01-25 08:35 MST ------- This is the upstream default location used if you do not use the graphical bluetooth devices. As far as I remember this is mentioned somewhere in the Yast-module where the non-graphical demon has to be enabled. Or has this changed, Seife? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 seife@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #6 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 01:05 MST ------- a non-technical user will simply use kdebluetooth or the gnome equivalent to receive obex-push which in turn will ask him if he wants to receive this push and where to save it. Using the system wide obex-push is more of an expert option and people who enable that should also be able to tweak the configuration (you can configure where it saves its files). This should probably be mentioned more explicitly in the YaST2 Bluetooth Module help text. Since this module will be refactored anyway, i will take care that this happens and leave this bug open as an "enhancement" to remind me of that issue. Moving the downlioad to /media/bluetooth is not an option since this is no "removable media" (/media is for mounting removable media) and, even more important, it is very well possible to have /media on a filesystem that is not writable at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 ------- Comment #7 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 08:24 MST ------- Hi, I've made that suggestion, but I'm not allowed to answer in bugzilla anmore Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 09:05 schrieben Sie:
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------- Comment #6 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 01:05 MST ------- a non-technical user will simply use kdebluetooth or the gnome equivalent to receive obex-push which in turn will ask him if he wants to receive this push and where to save it.
This is strange, I just tried a transfer and there is no (and as far as I can remember, there was no) popup to ask where to store a received file (KDE 3.5.5 "release 45.2" I checked the ~/.kde for bluetooth configuration
Using the system wide obex-push is more of an expert option and people who enable that should also be able to tweak the configuration (you can configure where it saves its files). This should probably be mentioned more explicitly in the YaST2 Bluetooth Module help text. Since this module will be refactored anyway, i will take care that this happens and leave this bug open as an "enhancement" to remind me of that issue.
Thats fine.
Moving the downlioad to /media/bluetooth is not an option since this is no "removable media" (/media is for mounting removable media) and, even more important, it is very well possible to have /media on a filesystem that is not writable at all.
Seeing this from a user perspective, Jack User learned that USB sticks and so on appear under /media, so this is a feasible place to put bluetooth receivables. Another option could be to put it under ~/bluetooth. Anything else will be hard to find.... Cheers Axel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 seife@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |behlert@novell.com ------- Comment #8 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 08:27 MST ------- (In reply to comment #7)
Hi,
I've made that suggestion, but I'm not allowed to answer in bugzilla anmore
Axel, you should definitely try to get your bugzilla account fixed, otherwise discussing bugs will be very - ahem - painful for us all :-) I'll comment on your suggestions next. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 ------- Comment #9 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 08:42 MST ------- (In reply to comment #7)
This is strange, I just tried a transfer and there is no (and as far as I can remember, there was no) popup to ask where to store a received file (KDE 3.5.5 "release 45.2" I checked the ~/.kde for bluetooth configuration
you need kdebluetoothd running for this, and opd disabled. If this does not work, please file a separate bugreport against kdebluetooth.
This should probably be mentioned more explicitly in the YaST2 Bluetooth Module help text. Since this module will be refactored anyway, i will take care that this happens and leave this bug open as an "enhancement" to remind me of that issue.
Thats fine.
good :-)
Moving the downlioad to /media/bluetooth is not an option since this is no "removable media" (/media is for mounting removable media) and, even more important, it is very well possible to have /media on a filesystem that is not writable at all.
Seeing this from a user perspective, Jack User learned that USB sticks and so on appear under /media, so this is a feasible place to put bluetooth receivables. Another option could be to put it under ~/bluetooth. Anything else will be hard to find....
No. The default save directory is ~/Documents, unless he changes this when prompted by the kde or gnome bluetooth applets when they receive an obex push. Mr. Desktop User will probably never want to know anything about opd etc, he will just use the desktop applets for that job. And the obex push is in no way similar to attaching external removable media, it is more like an FTP download - and that one also per default usually ends up inside the users $HOME. The system wide opd daemon is on the other hand more like an ftp server, and you also have to configure that one where to find its "/pub/" directory. Usually he finds it under /srv/ftp. That said, /srv/obex might be an appropriate path, i will think about that. Thanks for the suggestions, and i hope you get your bugzilla account fixed soon. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210265 seife@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Component|Mobile Devices |Mobile Devices Info Provider|behlert@novell.com | Product|SUSE LINUX 10.0 |openSUSE 10.3 Version|Final |unspecified ------- Comment #10 from seife@novell.com 2007-01-26 10:42 MST ------- i just learned that external persons are not allowed to comment on 10.0 bugs. So i moved it to 10.3. This is even appropriate, since the bug/feature is still almost the same in 10.3 (we moved to /var/lib/bluetooth/opd to avoid conflicts with the linkkeys, but the problem stays the same) :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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