https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c1 --- Comment #1 from Stephan Kulow 2011-02-17 17:50:05 CET --- this is because I block mono-devel from the live cds and 15535: U_Ts_(5672)mono-addins-0.5-2.2.noarch(tmp) 15536: will be selected by: 15537: U_Ts_(491)banshee-1-core-1.9.3-2.1.i586(tmp) mono(Mono.Addins) == 15546: will select: 15553: U_Ts_(5681)mono-devel-2.8.1-2.4.i586(tmp) mono(Microsoft.Build.Framework) == 2.0.0.0 requires 1 if I allow it, it would add ~22MB to the live cd, which would get very close to the maximum: 5,0M tomboy-lang.rpm 3,1M gnome-do-plugins.rpm 1,8M mono-winforms.rpm 1,8M mono-devel.rpm 1,7M f-spot.rpm 1,1M banshee-1-core.rpm 861K tomboy.rpm 776K banshee-1-lang.rpm 664K f-spot-lang.rpm 551K gbrainy-lang.rpm 513K banshee-1-extensions-default.rpm 423K mono-extras.rpm 394K mono-addins.rpm 259K banshee-1-dmp.rpm 243K gnome-do.rpm 194K gbrainy.rpm 179K taglib-sharp.rpm 162K gdata-sharp.rpm 160K mono-nunit.rpm 152K gnome-do-lang.rpm 146K libmtp8.rpm 132K banshee-1-backend-io-gio.rpm 127K dcraw.rpm 126K gnome-do-plugins-lang.rpm 99K banshee-1-backend-engine-gstreamer.rpm 91K mono-data-oracle.rpm 79K gio-sharp.rpm 58K flickrnet.rpm 56K banshee-1-dmp-apple-devices.rpm 54K mono-zeroconf-provider-avahi.rpm 51K banshee-1-backend-platform-gnome.rpm 48K banshee-1-dmp-mtp.rpm 47K banshee-1-client-classic.rpm 42K media-player-info.rpm 37K wnck-sharp.rpm 33K banshee-1-backend-platform-unix.rpm 32K banshee-1.rpm 31K gconf-sharp2.rpm 31K gmime-2_4-sharp.rpm 30K libgpod-sharp.rpm 29K mono-zeroconf.rpm 27K glade-sharp2.rpm 26K gtk-sharp-beans.rpm 18K gnome-panel-sharp.rpm 17K gnome-keyring-sharp.rpm 14K gnome-desktop-sharp2.rpm 12K gnome-panel-branding-openSUSE.rpm 12K gkeyfile-sharp.rpm 9,3K gudev-sharp.rpm And I seriously do not want mono-devel on the live cd. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c3 Vincent Untz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vuntz@novell.com Severity|Major |Critical --- Comment #3 from Vincent Untz 2011-02-17 17:31:47 UTC --- FWIW, we're working on getting rid of xulrunner192 from the livecd (gnome-web-photo doesn't need it anymore, it's been submitted; yelp port to xulrunner20 is hopefully coming soon). So that would help. But ignoring that for a while. How much more can we add? The current situation is really bad because we're missing banshee and f-spot... I don't want mono-devel either, btw :-) (In reply to comment #1)

5,0M tomboy-lang.rpm 776K banshee-1-lang.rpm 664K f-spot-lang.rpm 551K gbrainy-lang.rpm 152K gnome-do-lang.rpm 126K gnome-do-plugins-lang.rpm

Hrm. Is there any reason they're not in bundle-lang-gnome anymore? IIRC, you mentioned that you removed gbrainy because of the %no_lang_C stuff, but that got fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c5 --- Comment #5 from Gabriel Burt 2011-02-17 17:50:50 UTC --- Ok, I guess mono-addins added a new Mono.Addins.MSBuild.dll assembly in 0.5, which does indeed depend on /usr/lib/mono/2.0/Microsoft.Build.Framework.dll etc from mono-devel. Hopefully we can split that off into its own package, or disable it in the configure. I will investigate. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c7 --- Comment #7 from Stephan Kulow 2011-02-17 21:08:28 CET --- @vuntz: the bundle-lang-* are created by what lang packages would be on the live cd. No mono apps, no -lang packages in bundle-lang. @stshaw: I did not react at all. there is a package blacklist for the live cd and if something requires something from that blacklist, it's automatically ignored. I bet f-spot wasn't on the live cd for 4 milestones without anyone noticing. So if you fix the mono-devel requirement, we need to update the bundle-lang package and then it should be all fine and rosy. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c9 --- Comment #9 from Stephan Kulow 2011-02-17 21:19:09 CET --- @vuntz: btw, you have commit rights to the patterns. All it takes is defining a list of required packages, not just recommends - and to take care of regressions. http://gitorious.org/opensuse/package-lists/commit/c73410faf30376a0c8e294ed9... is the one where banshee disappeared from the gnome live cd. Don't expect me to track every single app - if noone notices for 3 months, the live cd can't be that important. Thanks Atri! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c10 --- Comment #10 from Vincent Untz 2011-02-17 20:41:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #9)

@vuntz: btw, you have commit rights to the patterns. All it takes is defining a list of required packages, not just recommends - and to take care of regressions.

Nod. I thought we avoided to put required packages there, though -- when a package is not installable, it can quickly become horrible.

http://gitorious.org/opensuse/package-lists/commit/c73410faf30376a0c8e294ed9... is the one where banshee disappeared from the gnome live cd. Don't expect me to track every single app - if noone notices for 3 months, the live cd can't be that important.

I actually did notice some time ago, but I thought it was because mono-addins was not installable at all, due to broken mono :/ Oh well. Thanks for your quick replies! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671844#c12 --- Comment #12 from Atri Bhattacharya 2011-02-22 13:30:52 UTC --- Thanks to all the hard working people for fixing this :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.