https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User mc@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c1 Michael Calmer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mc@novell.com AssignedTo|mc@novell.com |mt@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Michael Calmer 2008-09-25 01:46:17 MDT --- How netconfig and networkmanager work together is tracked by Marius. I am not fully informed about the agreement between Marius and Tambert. re-assign to mt. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User mt@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c3 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |tambet@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Marius Tomaschewski 2008-09-29 10:22:03 MDT --- Ahm... I've an idea what could break this: changes done for bug #401648... Tambet: Where does NetworkManager read the PPP dns server from - /etc/ppp/resolv.conf? This file is not written any more - see bug #401648. Stefan: Can you attach a "bash -x /etc/netconfig.d/dns-resolver" output and the files from /var/run/netconfig/ ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User tambet@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c5 Tambet Ingo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|tambet@novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Tambet Ingo 2008-09-30 00:03:52 MDT --- NM implements a pppd plugin that receives the IP configuration directly from pppd. NM log file includes the netconfig command line and lines it wrote to netconfig to make debugging easier. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User seife@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c7 --- Comment #7 from Stefan Seyfried 2008-10-07 06:25:20 MDT --- Note that I am not dialing in via Networkmanager but via plain pppd (umtsmon). I will verify if things are fixed in 0.71.7 today. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User seife@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c9 --- Comment #9 from Stefan Seyfried 2008-10-07 16:56:28 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=244120) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=244120) bash -x /etc/netconfig.d/dns-resolver -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User mt@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c11 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |milisav.radmanic@novell.com Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #11 from Marius Tomaschewski 2008-10-09 02:42:41 MDT --- During the installation, on the yast2 network proposal page in "General Network Settings" you're asked if you want to use the NetworkManager or the traditional "ifup" method. Using a combination of both is not supported any more without customization. The implementation in netconfig scripts is as requested by the NetworkManager. For proper functionality of the NetworkManager, it is required, that the NetworkManager is maintaining / merging the settings using an own policy and netconfig is just using the results 1:1 when the netconfig policy is "auto". Now you have the choice to: 1a) use NetworkManager only 1b) turn off NetworkManager and use ifcfg-* only 2) change to a custom netconfig policy, e.g. NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY="STATIC *" or "STATIC ppp0" ... or NETCONFIG_DNS_POLICY="STATIC_FALLBACK *" 3) write own netconfig modules to apply the settings. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks|433780 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User seife@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c13 Stefan Seyfried changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|mt@novell.com |tambet@novell.com Status|REOPENED |NEW --- Comment #13 from Stefan Seyfried 2008-10-09 05:43:23 MDT --- One example: I was not able to dial up with NM via bluetooth / rfcomm / mobile phone. (Maybe I just did not find it, but it works fine with smpppd). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User mt@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c15 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #15 from Marius Tomaschewski 2008-11-12 02:53:48 MST --- See comment #11. NM and ifup are two concurrent network setup mechanizms and you have to choose one of them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User milisav.radmanic@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c17 --- Comment #17 from Milisav Radmanic 2008-11-12 07:02:02 MST --- (In reply to comment #16 from Stefan Seyfried)

The bug is not invalid. The bug is maybe "WONTFIX" if you really want to document that you don't care about the user experience.

Currently there is no way to use both wireless LAN (where you need NetworkManager) and certain kinds of dialup (which are not supported by NetworkManager yet but for which solutions exist, e.g. kinternet, wvdial and umtsmon), which, for a user, makes for a very bad experience.

So If you close the bug, close it as WONTFIX since this documents the "We don't care" best.

I understand your disappointment in this case, but the issue is not that we don't want to fix something that is broken, it is more that your request hits a crucial point. Network Manager comes with its own code for managing many aspects of the network. This functionality is separate and additional to the "traditional" setup routines. Network Manager is not a remote control for the board utilities it does the tricks on its own. As such we cannot guarantee proper operation if we mix authorities. Whenever Network Manager is set to rule the network, the traditional setup has to stay away and vice versa. Your request would result in a hybrid which can't be kept consistent. The solution is either Network Manager gets enabled to support the lacking ppp-connections and/or the traditional setup tools learn how to setup wlan accordingly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User kwbolte@gmx.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c19 Kai-Wilhelm Bolte changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kwbolte@gmx.de --- Comment #19 from Kai-Wilhelm Bolte 2008-12-26 11:31:55 MST --- I don't understand why this bug is marked as RESOLVED. I had the same problems described above (umtsmon without working DNS) with 11.1 final and after a lot of testing I finally found seifes hack here: http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2008/12/ . It can't be so difficult to let other programs change the DNS even if Network-Managar is enabled. There are so much people using NM at home or office and umtsmon or kinternet for mobile communication. And this works well in openSUSE 11.0. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User seife@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c21 Stefan Seyfried changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |oneukum@novell.com --- Comment #21 from Stefan Seyfried 2009-01-16 04:12:22 MST --- *** Bug 466038 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466038 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User msvec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c23 --- Comment #23 from Michal Svec 2009-01-16 06:42:33 MST --- It would be good to add that info to wiki, to /etc/resolv.conf comments (or to man page or any other suitable place) so it is easily found by users. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772 User mt@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429772#c25 Marius Tomaschewski changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hpj@urpla.net --- Comment #25 from Marius Tomaschewski 2009-01-27 04:12:20 MST --- *** Bug 462686 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462686 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.