http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492647 Summary: Remove 'slab' Presentation of Yast and Most All Menu System and Standardise Default Menu System Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.2 Version: Alpha 0 Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: GNOME AssignedTo: bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: alpha096@virginbroadband.com.au QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009022800 SUSE/3.0.7-1.1.6 Firefox/3.0.7 When we open Yast in Gnome the response is 1 big slab of root applications and whilst this was originally much small the amount of root application has increased. We need to remove the slab of root Yast Menus. The same concept is required for the rationalisation of the user menu system - After many many years I can always find what I am looking for and what I need, but a recent public critique was not so kind. I decided to either validate or forget about the public critique. I presented 3 Entirely New to Linux home users with medium technical skills and left them alone. Ever negative feedback that was provided focused solely the Memu style 'slab' of applications in Yast because when you enter Yast the full screen of available application cannot all be seen as it extends off the Monitor. The other issue was that this same 'slab' issue in multiple user/system/non-root applications was hugely confusing. The 'Computer Menu initially opens well but heaven help any one who clicks on 'more applications' The other Menus being Applications, Places, System and Computer Menus all require consistent rationalisation of type, content and usage. On the very plus side is the wonderful faultless performance of applications and Yast - Its rock solid at a time where KDE often falls over. Give the user a good consist and menu, Direct multiple clipboard selection, different wallpapers per virtual desktop, much more default eye kandy and it will win hands down over KDE and miserable Vista, in my opinion. I have pasted an extract out of a public critique on SLED and its URL as of 23 March 2009 Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Enhancement 2.Enhancement 3.Enhancement Actual Results: See Description Extract text from http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9716 QUOTE..... My gripes with SLED 11 are also not just related to Novell’s insufficient QA, although clearly this is the product’s biggest problem. I also have design issues as to how they laid out the interface for their updated “Slab” enhancements to GNOME. In both openSUSE 11.1 and SLED 11, there are 3 distinct “views” by which programs and settings can be accessed — a “Control Center”, an “Applications Browser” and then “Yast2″. Each of these views contain a large amount of icons, particularly the “Applications Browser” which is several pages long. This is so overwhelming that it takes a long time to figure out in which interface a particular program or configuration option is actually located. This problem, which is a disease I shall refer to as “Iconitis” is also a design element I also take issue with in Windows Vista and Windows 7’s Control Panel, but Novell’s implementation is much more confusing and counter-intuitive. Ideally, I’d like to see ONE Control Panel/Applications Browser with organizational tabs or tree drill-downs so that you don’t have to switch between UIs to find what you need. Access to the Administrative icons should require super-user or authenticated user privileges. Can OEMs and Enterprises address the overwhelming amount of presented apps in the Application Browser using imaging and scripted installs? Yes, but again I say Novell should not assume everyone is going to do this. The default install and menu configuration should not be this unweildy for an end-user. While the technology itself in SLED 11 is impressive, Novell clearly has a lot of work to do before I can recommend deployment of SLED 11 as an enterprise desktop. UNQUOTE..... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.