https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808315 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808315#c0 Summary: RFC: No longer install HPLIP and other big printer driver packages by default? Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Factory Version: 13.1 Milestone 0 Platform: All OS/Version: SUSE Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Printing AssignedTo: coolo@suse.com ReportedBy: jsmeix@suse.com QAContact: jsmeix@suse.com Found By: Development Blocker: No This is a request for comments whether or not it is nowadays still needed to "fill up" by default any user's harddisk when HPLIP (and other big printer driver packages like Gutenprint) are installed unconditioned in our default system. The advantage when all usual printer driver packages are installed by default is that usual printer setup works without the need to get and install printer driver packages. Actual disk usage of HPLIP and Gutenprint on openSUSE 12.3 i586: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- # du -hc $( for f in $( rpm -ql hplip hplip-hpijs hplip-sane ) ; \ do test -f $f && echo $f ; done ) | tail -n1 28M total # du -hc $( for f in $( rpm -ql gutenprint ) ; \ do test -f $f && echo $f ; done ) | tail -n1 50M total ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RPM "Size" for HPLIP and Gutenprint on openSUSE 12.3 i586 and x86_64: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- hplip-3.12.11-2.2.1.i586.rpm Size : 10420581 hplip-3.12.11-2.2.1.x86_64.rpm Size : 10432287 hplip-hpijs-3.12.11-2.2.1.i586.rpm Size : 14418324 hplip-hpijs-3.12.11-2.2.1.x86_64.rpm Size : 14418724 hplip-sane-3.12.11-2.2.1.i586.rpm Size : 158720 hplip-sane-3.12.11-2.2.1.x86_64.rpm Size : 151782 gutenprint-5.2.9-3.1.1.i586.rpm Size : 42582349 gutenprint-5.2.9-3.1.1.x86_64.rpm Size : 43145887 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the one hand on nowadays physical harddisks 28M and 50M is not really much but on the other hand harddisk space could be of more interest on virtual machines and there is the general issue to what extent it makes sense to install software unconditioned by default. Since some time the hplip-hpijs and gutenprint RPMs contain long lists of RPM provides of the form postscriptdriver(<manufacturer>;<model>;) According to bnc#735864 and bnc#735865 this seems to support some kind of automated printer driver package search - but I am really no expert here. I assume that automated printer driver package search requires automated printer model detection but printer model detection basically only works well for locally connected printers (i.e. USB printers) but it cannot work when the actual printer device is "hidden" in the network behind whatever kind of printer "share" (e.g. a LPD print queue on a printserver box or router box or a Windows/SMB printer share or whatever else). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.