https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428162 User rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428162#c10 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sh@novell.com --- Comment #10 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2008-09-29 09:58:47 MDT --- Robert, I certainly side with you that the situation as is isn't very intuitive, but I'm not sure the solution is to bloat the software manager even further. I think what would be desirable is to abandon the software manager as a tool for the desktop user tool, and present instead the user with an intuitive tool made to actually aid him in the process of discovering the desktop and its applications. The patterns could be an internal convenience and the software manager accessible as a fine tweaking tool, delegated to second plan. Furthermore, the user shouldn't really need to think about installing and removing programs. A desktop like KDE should be presented as an option in the Display Manager even if not installed. If the user chooses to run it, then it should be installed at the moment. This should be true for a lot of other programs as well: for instance, if no PDF reader is installed: still show a "PDF reader" option even if none is installed, and then ask the user which he wishes to try when he tries to run it. It would be installed transparently and readily available. Servers and other technical stuff should be installed by their respective yast tool, and all yast tools should be accessible even if they, or their required software, is not installed. Back to reality, I'm not sure what we can do in the software manager. You may like to know that the GTK UI currently places the categories/patterns combo box in a more visible spot, so you shouldn't miss it this time. Anyway, long-time users already know it, or at least are already very fond of a desktop (even CDs now only ship one desktop flavor), and newbies won't know they want to install KDE or Gnome. Stefan, won't fix? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.