https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215649 ------- Comment #23 from andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de 2006-11-01 17:34 MST ------- Not to mention that the Automatic Online Update Setup in YaST writes a cron rule which calls rug, and that KDE users who try to set up their systems for automatic updates would not get any security patches because the tool to install them is not even installed at all. And installing it later doesn't help because it's then still unable to install any patches because it has no services. I can't believe that we are, less than 4 weeks before the final freeze, again discussing how to break another distribution directly before the release and how to make it basically unsupportable. It's unbelievable and the ignorance of the impact of such a change is shocking. It is still definitely not as easy as removing zmd from a pattern and the impact is still more severe than not having an arbitrary command-line tool installed by default because this tool belongs to the very core of the distribution and the already feature-frozen distribution is designed to rely on it in more places than a zmd-hating user can see. In order to have a distribution that is supportable without zmd installed by default, _nothing_ in the distribution must assume zmd to be present and everything that does must be changed. Slightly difficult in a feature-frozen distribution, I'd say. Guys, you can't change the Automatic Online Setup now to write a zypper cron job because that way you're forcing a basically untested tool upon all users, and the other way round, you can't release a distribution that writes a cron rule with a tool that is not even installed by default because that's broken. It is damn late for this change! Let's make Zenworks easily unselectable, easily deinstallable, declare this unsupported for now because it is not supportable and then try to work towards a 10.3 distribution that does not only leave zmd out of the default installation, but actually _works_ without it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.