Brothers, the FOSDEM Team wants to try something new (i like that!) for the upcoming instance. Let me just quote the relevant parts of the announcement mail from Pascal:
The next edition is 6+7 February 2010, and it's also our 10th edition. As such, we've been reflecting on the evolution of the event (in the sense that our mission and what it has become is rather a platform for FOSS projects, much more than just a conference, or at least that's what we'd like FOSDEM to become), and we are introducing a change regarding Developer Rooms for distribution projects.
We would like to push the envelope of our mission even further by organizing something along the lines of a "distribution summit" during FOSDEM 2010 (incidentally, I had that idea long before I heard of the "distrosummit" that will be held at linuxconf.au, a few weeks before FOSDEM but hey, it's far away, and FOSDEM is the European event of the year ;D).
The idea is that rather than having several distributions with their own respective and individual Developer Room, we will host mixed conference rooms where talks and sessions will be organized _by topic_, with contributors from all distributions attending and participating. [...] To dive into a little more detail: * 3 (large) rooms will be allocated for that "distro summit" * sessions will be scheduled by topic (see below) * every project is welcome to join in :)
Topics are something I need your feedback and ideas on: whatever you think is appropriate as a topic that is recurring issue for distributions (governance, feature tracking, trust mechanisms, ambassadors, ...), or something where you would like to present your solutions for specific tasks to other distributions (e.g. package building, translations, bug tracking, community infrastructure, ...), especially if you're interested in feedback, ideas and collaboration from and with other projects... we'd love to hear about it :) [...] The most practical option will be to subscribe to a mailing-list: http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/dist2010 And we will be able to discuss details, ideas, as well as the schedule there.
So far only very little discussion has happened around this topic. Mostly people expressed that they liked or disliked it. Which is not really the point i think. Its the FOSDEM's team event. They do all the hard work and should be the driving force behind how it's organized. If they want to try something new we should help them succeed. Thats why i would like to brainstorm a bit about tracks with you and then we can bring them over to the dist2010 list. Let me start: 1. Build Systems I would like to see a build system track. Where different distributions can introduce theirs and the concepts behind it. Including, but not limited to, how contributions, maintenance, branching, image building etc are handled. I think this is a great topic for distros to stimulate each other. I think all of us could do something here for the OBS. From conceptual talks down to hands one hacking stuff. I could do a talk about the collaboration features of the OBS and/or one about our distribution setup in it. 2. Upstream I would also like to have an Upstream track where the whole distro<>upstream relation is discussed. Including release cycles, contributions, alteration etc. Possible contributions from us would be vuntz/will/lubos talking about how we handle the desktops or we could get one of the kernel guys to talk about that. Brainstorm please! :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Le vendredi 04 décembre 2009, à 14:04 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
1. Build Systems I would like to see a build system track. Where different distributions can introduce theirs and the concepts behind it. Including, but not limited to, how contributions, maintenance, branching, image building etc are handled. I think this is a great topic for distros to stimulate each other. I think all of us could do something here for the OBS. From conceptual talks down to hands one hacking stuff.
I could do a talk about the collaboration features of the OBS and/or one about our distribution setup in it.
I think explaining our model with devel projects to other distro can be of interest -- I'm not aware of anybody else having such a concept (ie, they all directly push packages to "factory")
2. Upstream I would also like to have an Upstream track where the whole distro<>upstream relation is discussed. Including release cycles, contributions, alteration etc. Possible contributions from us would be vuntz/will/lubos talking about how we handle the desktops or we could get one of the kernel guys to talk about that.
FWIW, I already proposed some "GNOME upstream vs downstream" session for this devroom, but I want it to be really useful, so I'd prefer it to be a big discussion in the devroom more than a one-way talk. If I have time, I'll probably also share a session with some mandriva people about sharing package summaries/descriptions (and therefore, translations). And I'd love to do something about an upstream tracker, but this implies having some code done before... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le vendredi 04 décembre 2009, à 14:04 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
1. Build Systems I would like to see a build system track. Where different distributions can introduce theirs and the concepts behind it. Including, but not limited to, how contributions, maintenance, branching, image building etc are handled. I think this is a great topic for distros to stimulate each other. I think all of us could do something here for the OBS. From conceptual talks down to hands one hacking stuff.
I could do a talk about the collaboration features of the OBS and/or one about our distribution setup in it.
I think explaining our model with devel projects to other distro can be of interest -- I'm not aware of anybody else having such a concept (ie, they all directly push packages to "factory")
I would also like to see us help out the OBS team and friends. At least with coming up with topics/talks and giving a few. Adrian is swamped at the moment he told me and February is very close. Is there anything to talk about from the G:F perspective maybe? Or even you as OSC hacker.
2. Upstream I would also like to have an Upstream track where the whole distro<>upstream relation is discussed. Including release cycles, contributions, alteration etc. Possible contributions from us would be vuntz/will/lubos talking about how we handle the desktops or we could get one of the kernel guys to talk about that.
FWIW, I already proposed some "GNOME upstream vs downstream" session for this devroom, but I want it to be really useful, so I'd prefer it to be a big discussion in the devroom more than a one-way talk.
Sure. The style is of course a decision of the one who gives the talk.
If I have time, I'll probably also share a session with some mandriva people about sharing package summaries/descriptions (and therefore, translations).
And I'd love to do something about an upstream tracker, but this implies having some code done before...
Huh? Since when do you need code to talk about something? :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Le vendredi 04 décembre 2009, à 14:48 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
Hi,
Vincent Untz wrote:
Le vendredi 04 décembre 2009, à 14:04 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
1. Build Systems I would like to see a build system track. Where different distributions can introduce theirs and the concepts behind it. Including, but not limited to, how contributions, maintenance, branching, image building etc are handled. I think this is a great topic for distros to stimulate each other. I think all of us could do something here for the OBS. From conceptual talks down to hands one hacking stuff.
I could do a talk about the collaboration features of the OBS and/or one about our distribution setup in it.
I think explaining our model with devel projects to other distro can be of interest -- I'm not aware of anybody else having such a concept (ie, they all directly push packages to "factory")
I would also like to see us help out the OBS team and friends. At least with coming up with topics/talks and giving a few. Adrian is swamped at the moment he told me and February is very close. Is there anything to talk about from the G:F perspective maybe? Or even you as OSC hacker.
Hrm. Well, I can probably talk during 10-15 minutes about G:F and how we work with osc... But not much more than that, I'd say. [...]
And I'd love to do something about an upstream tracker, but this implies having some code done before...
Huh? Since when do you need code to talk about something? :)
Vaporware? :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Moin, On Friday 04 December 2009 15:03:16 Vincent Untz wrote:
Le vendredi 04 décembre 2009, à 14:48 +0100, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
Hi, here my ideas:
ext4 and btrfs - features today and in the future Software shop - how to provide software most efficient to users? Social desktop - how to integrate social components into the desktop? Best M -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 02:04:41PM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Brothers,
the FOSDEM Team wants to try something new (i like that!) for the upcoming instance. Let me just quote the relevant parts of the announcement mail from Pascal:
[...]
So far only very little discussion has happened around this topic. Mostly people expressed that they liked or disliked it. Which is not really the point i think. Its the FOSDEM's team event. They do all the hard work and should be the driving force behind how it's organized. If they want to try something new we should help them succeed. Thats why i would like to brainstorm a bit about tracks with you and then we can bring them over to the dist2010 list. Let me start:
1. Build Systems I would like to see a build system track. Where different distributions can introduce theirs and the concepts behind it. Including, but not limited to, how contributions, maintenance, branching, image building etc are handled. I think this is a great topic for distros to stimulate each other. I think all of us could do something here for the OBS. From conceptual talks down to hands one hacking stuff.
I could do a talk about the collaboration features of the OBS and/or one about our distribution setup in it.
2. Upstream I would also like to have an Upstream track where the whole distro<>upstream relation is discussed. Including release cycles, contributions, alteration etc. Possible contributions from us would be vuntz/will/lubos talking about how we handle the desktops or we could get one of the kernel guys to talk about that.
Brainstorm please! :)
3. Distribution testing and QA It might be interesting to know how various distributions handle testing and quality control, what are the processes, policies and tools (if any) to support developers/community in testing upcoming maintenance updates, distribution releases etc. Just my two cents... -- Best regards / s pozdravem Petr Uzel, openSUSE Boosters Team ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: puzel@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 http://www.suse.cz 190 00 Prague 9, CR
Hi,
the FOSDEM Team wants to try something new (i like that!) for the upcoming instance. Let me just quote the relevant parts of the announcement mail from Pascal:
The next edition is 6+7 February 2010, and it's also our 10th edition. ... Brainstorm please! :) So, here is the list of talks and topics that might be interesting for FOSDEM. Some people already committed. Please speak up if you are not ok with the list.
Please keep in mind that we have to propose the talks by jan. 4th. Not all talks are relevant to cross distro topics but thats ok. I is not set that we get all slots. - Cornelius: SUSEStudio and openSUSE - cwh: Kiwi cross distro building - adrian: Experience with cross distro building in the OBS - puzel: Distribution testing and QA It might be interesting to know how various distributions handle testing and quality control, what are the processes, policies and tools (if any) to support developers/community in testing upcoming maintenance updates, distribution releases etc. - Vincent: GNOME upstream visa downstream (upstream effort) - Egbert: X.org (upstream effort) - prusnak: rpm cross distro - freitag: Hermes message dispatching I am checking with Peter Poeml if he wants to talk about Mirrorbrain. Thanks Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 18 December 2009 16:19:20 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Hi,
the FOSDEM Team wants to try something new (i like that!) for the upcoming instance. Let me just quote the relevant parts of the
announcement mail from Pascal:
The next edition is 6+7 February 2010, and it's also our 10th edition. ...
Brainstorm please! :)
So, here is the list of talks and topics that might be interesting for FOSDEM. Some people already committed. Please speak up if you are not ok with the list.
Please keep in mind that we have to propose the talks by jan. 4th. Not all talks are relevant to cross distro topics but thats ok. I is not set that we get all slots.
- Cornelius: SUSEStudio and openSUSE - cwh: Kiwi cross distro building - adrian: Experience with cross distro building in the OBS - puzel: Distribution testing and QA It might be interesting to know how various distributions handle testing and quality control, what are the processes, policies and tools (if any) to support developers/community in testing upcoming maintenance updates, distribution releases etc. - Vincent: GNOME upstream visa downstream (upstream effort) - Egbert: X.org (upstream effort) - prusnak: rpm cross distro - freitag: Hermes message dispatching
I am checking with Peter Poeml if he wants to talk about Mirrorbrain.
Hi, I can talk about clicfs: Clicfs as perfect live cd file system Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 04:19:20PM +0100, Klaas Freitag wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
the FOSDEM Team wants to try something new (i like that!) for the upcoming instance. Let me just quote the relevant parts of the announcement mail from Pascal:
The next edition is 6+7 February 2010, and it's also our 10th edition. ... Brainstorm please! :) So, here is the list of talks and topics that might be interesting for FOSDEM. Some people already committed. Please speak up if you are not ok with the list.
[...]
- puzel: Distribution testing and QA It might be interesting to know how various distributions handle testing and quality control, what are the processes, policies and tools (if any) to support developers/community in testing upcoming maintenance updates, distribution releases etc.
This topic is something I would like to hear about, not talk about :) The maintenance process has been opened to community recently and QA is not handled by community at all, so there's not much stuff to talk about. -- Best regards / s pozdravem Petr Uzel, openSUSE Boosters Team ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: puzel@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 http://www.suse.cz 190 00 Prague 9, CR
On 12/18/2009 04:19 PM, Klaas Freitag wrote:
So, here is the list of talks and topics that might be interesting for FOSDEM. Some people already committed. Please speak up if you are not ok with the list.
Please keep in mind that we have to propose the talks by jan. 4th. Not all talks are relevant to cross distro topics but thats ok. I is not set that we get all slots.
Today is 4th of Jan. Have we already sent the list of following tasks to FOSDEM staff? (I'm OK with RPM cross distro talk ...)
- Cornelius: SUSEStudio and openSUSE - cwh: Kiwi cross distro building - adrian: Experience with cross distro building in the OBS - puzel: Distribution testing and QA It might be interesting to know how various distributions handle testing and quality control, what are the processes, policies and tools (if any) to support developers/community in testing upcoming maintenance updates, distribution releases etc. - Vincent: GNOME upstream visa downstream (upstream effort) - Egbert: X.org (upstream effort) - prusnak: rpm cross distro - freitag: Hermes message dispatching
I am checking with Peter Poeml if he wants to talk about Mirrorbrain.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On 12/04/2009 02:04 PM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Brothers,
What about the travels? I think we should start booking the flights now! For which days? -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
participants (7)
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Henne Vogelsang -
Klaas Freitag -
Michael Loeffler -
Pavol Rusnak -
Petr Uzel -
Stephan Kulow -
Vincent Untz