Hey marketing team, Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC: Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear. Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing. First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody. Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s). This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected. Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen. Cheers, Jos
Hey Jos, On 03/15/2011 04:10 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team.
Can you elaborate on what you expect from the Boosters? I would like to understand what we can do for you but the mail was not very specific about that. Let's get down to business! :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 15 Mar 2011 16:15:12 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey Jos,
On 03/15/2011 04:10 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team.
Can you elaborate on what you expect from the Boosters? I would like to understand what we can do for you but the mail was not very specific about that. Let's get down to business! :)
It's useful to know the strategy so when we meet possible Ambassadors at events we can tell them how it works. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On 2011-03-15 Henne wrote:
Hey Jos,
On 03/15/2011 04:10 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team.
Can you elaborate on what you expect from the Boosters? I would like to understand what we can do for you but the mail was not very specific about that. Let's get down to business! :)
The q for the boosters is mostly: does this make sense on connect.o.o? I know the NL team already has a nice page on connect but there might be room for improvement ;-) The page on connect needs to be a bit more configurable, OR should somehow have wiki integration... I can't help but feel the overlap between wiki userpages and teampages and what connect does. And the forums too, aaah, if only we had 50 master hackers and could integrate it all :D Meanwhile, I'll try and play with the page, see if it could be better than a wiki page... Check out the best I could do: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/12548/opensuse-nl/ Who do I ask for a NL mailinglist so I can get our 16 members to join? Cheers, Jos
Henne
2011/4/1 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On 2011-03-15 Henne wrote:
Hey Jos,
On 03/15/2011 04:10 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team.
Can you elaborate on what you expect from the Boosters? I would like to understand what we can do for you but the mail was not very specific about that. Let's get down to business! :)
The q for the boosters is mostly: does this make sense on connect.o.o? I know the NL team already has a nice page on connect but there might be room for improvement ;-)
The page on connect needs to be a bit more configurable, OR should somehow have wiki integration... I can't help but feel the overlap between wiki userpages and teampages and what connect does. And the forums too, aaah, if only we had 50 master hackers and could integrate it all :D
Meanwhile, I'll try and play with the page, see if it could be better than a wiki page... Check out the best I could do: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/12548/opensuse-nl/
Who do I ask for a NL mailinglist so I can get our 16 members to join?
You ask the one and only Henne to do that ;-)
Cheers, Jos
Henne
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On 2011-03-31 Jos wrote:
On 2011-03-15 Henne wrote:
Hey Jos,
On 03/15/2011 04:10 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team.
Can you elaborate on what you expect from the Boosters? I would like to understand what we can do for you but the mail was not very specific about that. Let's get down to business! :)
The q for the boosters is mostly: does this make sense on connect.o.o? I know the NL team already has a nice page on connect but there might be room for improvement ;-)
The page on connect needs to be a bit more configurable, OR should somehow have wiki integration... I can't help but feel the overlap between wiki userpages and teampages and what connect does. And the forums too, aaah, if only we had 50 master hackers and could integrate it all :D
Meanwhile, I'll try and play with the page, see if it could be better than a wiki page... Check out the best I could do: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/12548/opensuse-nl/
Who do I ask for a NL mailinglist so I can get our 16 members to join?
Cheers, Jos
Henne
Spend a while with master Henne today in IRC. He added rich text support to connect. The dutch team page moved up a few notches to this one: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/groups/12548/opensuse-nl/ Pretty cool :D *requests outstanding* _For using event pages for planning_ - add some input fields in event pages https://features.opensuse.org/312179 - add commenting to event pages https://features.opensuse.org/312177 - adding the ability to plan things on an event page (make a list of materials ppl bring etc): https://features.opensuse.org/312178 - add gallery functionality to connect (for event reports!) https://features.opensuse.org/312183 _To be able to track what ambassadors have done_ - allow clasification of attendance: https://features.opensuse.org/312182 - show what events an ambassador has visited: https://features.opensuse.org/312181 _Not super-duper related (but very nice to have)_ - add commenting on userpages: https://features.opensuse.org/312158 Henne seems looking to solve some off these already but that would take him a while on his own... To me, looks like an awesome thing for marketing ppl who have a bit of technical skill to contribute to. The team working on it has some nice documentations on how connect works: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Connect Several of these features can be added quite easy with plugins etc, you don't even need that much code skills (if any)! Ask Henne (henne on irc) or Pavol (prusnak on irc) if you want to help out. Oh and I might add more to fill the gaps that surely are still there ;-) Thanks and enjoy your weekends! Jos
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
Jos, Who is on the booster team. I like to join. Pup -- (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On 2011-03-15 Chuck wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jos Poortvliet
<jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
Jos,
Who is on the booster team. I like to join.
? you know the opensuse boosters, the 13 guys incl henne, klaas, pavol etc? google it :D
Pup
Well there are 14 now :D On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2011-03-15 Chuck wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jos Poortvliet
<jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
Jos,
Who is on the booster team. I like to join.
? you know the opensuse boosters, the 13 guys incl henne, klaas, pavol etc? google it :D
Pup
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1@gmail.com> wrote:
Well there are 14 now :D
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2011-03-15 Chuck wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jos Poortvliet
<jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
Jos,
Who is on the booster team. I like to join.
? you know the opensuse boosters, the 13 guys incl henne, klaas, pavol etc? google it :D
Pup
-- Regards Manu Gupta
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Cartman aka Ismail Domez.. aka namtrac On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Chuck Payne <terrorpup@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Manu Gupta <manugupt1@gmail.com> wrote:
Well there are 14 now :D
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2011-03-15 Chuck wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Jos Poortvliet
<jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
Jos,
Who is on the booster team. I like to join.
? you know the opensuse boosters, the 13 guys incl henne, klaas, pavol etc? google it :D
Pup
-- Regards Manu Gupta
Whos number 14?
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2011/3/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
Hey marketing team,
Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC:
Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear.
Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing.
Jos here in Greece we use the opensuse-el for ambassador things(which is in the openSUSE infrastructure) , in rare cases that we need to talk only the ambassadors(a rare thing and happened only once or twise so far) we just CC all the ambassadors in a simple mail. Generally I am not against on doing local ambassador lists but so far at least here in Greece we find no reason to add another ML.
First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody.
+ 1 I just need to know how a moderated ML works
Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s).
That is something we(the Greek ambassadors) never thought and I find that interesting and we will make a discussion about it the following days
This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected.
Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen.
Cheers, Jos
I think that the base of your proposal is to support and deploy(not sure if is the correct word) local communities and I am 100% with you on that since I truly believe that strong local communities can really give the global community the strength to grow even more and make a better stand to the global FOSS community. What we must all be careful though is while planning and discussing how to do that,to try not to make things too complicated for the people. I would be very interested to hear Nelsons opinion about all that since he is starting also a local community and he probably examines all those carefully too. That's it for now Kostas Koudaras -- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://own.opensuse.gr http://warlordfff.tk me I am not me ------- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
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