Hey hey, Here are some notes. It's far from being complete since a lot happened, but it should hopefully cover the important topics. [general] - the format of UDS is really a good one: lots of 1-hour sessions that focus on creating a plan to solve a specific issue, so that people can simply implement the plan in the next 6 months, instead of having to discuss the plan for a long time on mailing list (real time communication is always faster) - good focus on the desktop (I guess that's because I mostly attended desktop sessions). The format helped again here, I guess, since it was easy to know what was going on in this area. - since they're doing this every 6 months, it's very well-organized and things go smoothly - I still wish they'd invest more upstream (it has improved with time, though) [upstream] - had some really good discussion with other upstream people and with the Ubuntu desktop team, on many many many topics - got some feedback about various issues Ubuntu sees with recent upstream versions, that are either moving too fast, or have some visible regressions for some groups of users. - that's not really a new debate, and it's something that is already being worked on - looks like there's some communication failure at multiple levels, though :/ - discussed how to better maintain some modules that are sometimes slow to move - we discussed login performance again, and identified a few areas where things could get fixed (some other areas are Debian/Ubuntu-specific) - put my GNOME Foundation hat a bit to discuss some topics with Canonical (which is an advisory board member) [ubuntu] - in general, some good discussion about various topics. I won't enter into details there, it's all on the wiki or in the gobby documents. Some examples include: - default settings for compiz - how to provide a smooth upgrade experience - which apps & games to ship by default - next version is a LTS, so they try to avoid some changes that might cause unstability - they will most likely ship GNOME 2.30 (including new glib and gtk+), but they'll keep some 2.28 versions for various modules that are known to be potentially unstable - they're working with some company to have a real big music store by default in rhythmbox (and amarok). This would be tied to Ubuntu One, though, so not re-usable without such an account :/ - some discussion about integrating geoclue by default in the desktop, but some preliminary tests lead to think it was better to wait. They'll likely add the geoclue dependency to empathy, though (we have this in openSUSE). Geoclue is a dbus service that provides geolocation API. - GIMP won't be installed by default. A move that makes sense for most users, I think. They might ship Pitivi (video editor) by default. - they have some long-term plans for their Software Center. Eg, a section to show some really good apps (GIMP, Inkscape, etc.) in the not-too-long term, and some ratings by users in the longer term. - they're working on a gdmsetup application. They might even propose it for inclusion upstream (gdmsetup is the application to configure gdm, and it was removed upstream when gdm got a rewrite) [misc] - chatted quite a bit with one MariaDB person. They want to make sure it's available so that people can at least choose, and can survive whatever happens with MySQL in the future. - talked to Michal already, and he'll probably take a look - also, darix pointed out that they could make use of the build service to provide packages for most distros. I'm chatting with them about this. - was able to see the KDE netbook interface, although I didn't play with it. - Robert Ancell is working on a simple scan interface. Finally something to replace xsane? - there was some real presence from ARM, Freescale, etc. I guess some ARM netbooks running Linux are coming soon. - someone presented some insightful classification of users of social networks: - door: people that keep things private, but use the social networks for initial contact - mirror: people that record their live (lots of pictures) - room: people that interact a lot publicly, with different activities - I played a Wii Tennis game with Sébastien Bacher. Ubuntu vs openSUSE. I won :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org